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Ghost hunter coming to campus...

Mercutio

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Peter Jordan, "parapsychologist and writer" with "over 30 years experience investigating hundreds of files..."

publicity website here.

Anyone know anything about this guy? Has he come to any of your areas? I will google for him, of course, but am interested to see whether any here have heard or seen him, and whether I should go or send students with specific questions...just for fun.
 
Ask him why the events at Amityville stopped right after the family moved out, and why no one who's lived there since then has experienced anything.

Marc
 
Marc L said:
Ask him why the events at Amityville stopped right after the family moved out, and why no one who's lived there since then has experienced anything.

Marc
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I typed "Amityville debunked" (without the quotes) into Google and got "about 524 English pages".

A place to start seems to be:
http://chatanuga.org/Amitypt1.html

The whole thing was a fraud and has no confirmation outside what the family says happened. The book lies about the involvement of the Catholic Church, the Police, etc, etc.

The OP may want to print out a little of what's available on the Internet for at least a few of his friends to see.
 
Joe Nickell has great stuff about Amityville.

I would give him a call at CSICOP and ask about this, or find out what this guy is going to talk about. Ask him what he thinks about TAPS. I actually find TAPS at least trying to be fair and not just grasping at every stray bug as an orb.

Just be sure to ask some questions. Because college kids are smart, and if everyone there is just nodding thier heads in agreement, they aren't going to THINK. See if some of your students will go with you. Give them a few good questions to ask.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
I typed "Amityville debunked" (without the quotes) into Google and got "about 524 English pages".

A place to start seems to be:
http://chatanuga.org/Amitypt1.html

The whole thing was a fraud and has no confirmation outside what the family says happened. The book lies about the involvement of the Catholic Church, the Police, etc, etc.
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Yeah, I mentioned it, though, because the website in the OP says, in it's about section, "From his own personal -- and hair-raising -- investigation of the “Amityville Horror”"

Unless he's talking about a movie review...

Marc
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
I typed "Amityville debunked" (without the quotes) into Google and got "about 524 English pages".

A place to start seems to be:
http://chatanuga.org/Amitypt1.html

The whole thing was a fraud and has no confirmation outside what the family says happened. The book lies about the involvement of the Catholic Church, the Police, etc, etc.

The OP may want to print out a little of what's available on the Internet for at least a few of his friends to see.
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The author of this site does reasonable job debunking obvious falsehoods in the Jay Anson book, exposing inconsistencies in the Lutz's accounts and coming up with alternative explanations for some of the claimed phenomena in the Amityville house.

Unfortunately the author then goes on to present his own 20 year haunting by what he has deduced to be a demon. This includes flying around his bedroom, EVP in his college dorm, various apparitions, being stabbed by an electrical plug that then glides back into the wall socket, and an encounter with what would seem to be the genuine tooth fairy. :eye-poppi
 
kittynh said:
http://www.thetartan.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/20/4357e525d70dd

here's an article, it might help you forumlate questions.
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Interesting...
Jordan’s method of research combines psychological and medical profi les of witnesses and the use of “psychic detectives.” Jordan has conducted over 100 bone-chilling investigations involving poltergeists, hauntings, near-death experiences and demonic possession. He was extensively involved in the Amityville haunting, the widely known case about a demonically possessed house which drove its various owners to mass-homicide.

Despite popular belief, Jordan found the case of the “Amityville Horror” to be nothing more than a fake. “The case was a fraud perpetuated by the defense lawyer for a man who committed several murders there,” Jordan said.
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So he is not a fan of Amityville, anyway. But just above these paragraphs...
When Jordan began researching the paranormal, his first goal was to discover if ghosts actually did exist. Now that he does indeed know they are real, his research focuses on why they exist. “The answer to this is a very simple one,” Jordan said. “It’s because ghosts are trapped. We’re all curious about what (death is) going to be like. We just don’t want to be there when it happens.”
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...so he does believe in ghosts.

Would his claims be relevant to the million dollar challenge? Could he, instead of making pocket change talking to colleges, make a million bucks by demonstrating the presence of a real ghost?
 
Carnivore said:
The author of this site does reasonable job debunking obvious falsehoods in the Jay Anson book, exposing inconsistencies in the Lutz's accounts and coming up with alternative explanations for some of the claimed phenomena in the Amityville house.

Unfortunately the author then goes on to present his own 20 year haunting by what he has deduced to be a demon. This includes flying around his bedroom, EVP in his college dorm, various apparitions, being stabbed by an electrical plug that then glides back into the wall socket, and an encounter with what would seem to be the genuine tooth fairy. :eye-poppi
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(Bolding mine.)

That's funny. I guess I did not read that far. But, thinking about it, who better to debunk a fake demon case than a person that knows about real demons? :jaw-dropp
 
Mercutio said:
publicity website here.
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I would suggest reading the publicity web site to give you an idea of what his talk will be about, and then finding out what you can to debunk the things on that site so you are prepared.

For example, from the publicity site:

Hear the incredible tale of a family terrorized by a knife-wielding poltergeist – and witness the ghost of a young boy caught during the filming of Three Men and A Baby.
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Witness the ghost. He's going to show it to you.

Soooooo...
The Three Men and a Baby ghost is debunked here: http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/3menbaby.htm


As usual, the truth is much more mundane. The figure behind the curtains is a "standee" (a stand-up cardboard cutout used for advertising displays) of Ted Danson, dressed in a top hat, white shirt, and tails. The standee prop was created as part of a story line involving a dog food commercial in which Danson's character (an actor) appears, but references to the figure were cut from the finished version of the film.
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What the Ghost Hunter will probably show you:

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So after he goes on during his presentation about the level of expertise he puts into action investigating hauntings, you can say during the Q&A period, if there is one:

"Well, sir, I am wondering about the ghost of a young boy caught during the filming of Three Men and A Baby that is mentioned on your web site?"

If he hasn't already talked about it, allow him to at this point.

Then, "Well, sir, it is my understanding that..." and pass out the photos from the Snopes web site and explain what the "ghost" really was.

"So are we to take this as a sign of the level of integrity behind your paranormal investigations?"
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
(Bolding mine.)

That's funny. I guess I did not read that far. But, thinking about it, who better to debunk a fake demon case than a person that knows about real demons? :jaw-dropp
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Re your bolding: He stated his paranormal experiences began when he was in kindergarten and continued through college. He says it ended after he was baptized as an adult. He gives his reasoning as to why it was a demon and not some other kind of "spirit".
 
YES Luke! Have a copy of the photo from the web site !!!

It can be a terrible computer printed copy, and have what is written from the site. Have a few copies, and HAND the man one when you ask the question. Have your students or whomever goes with you make sure you get to ask your question (they can all put up their hands and know what the questions to ask are).

Also post some of the photos on the board outside after so other people can see it as they leave.

Just one slip up is enough. I know you are kinda shy, so see if you can get a really outgoing student to do this if you want. Or another prof. I know I would rather someone else get up and do something like this. If only Luke would still fly he could come in!
 
Carnivore said:
Re your bolding: He stated his paranormal experiences began when he was in kindergarten and continued through college. He says it ended after he was baptized as an adult. He gives his reasoning as to why it was a demon and not some other kind of "spirit".
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Yes? And?

So he's not an expert in demons. Sorry.
 
hey, I"m not an expert on unicorns.

Or the Loch Ness Monster (actually, I can hold my own there)

Demons, ghosts...

you could be an expert on the folklore I suppose
 
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