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Would god(s) be natural?

T'ai Chi

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If god(s) exist, would your worldview consider them to be natural objects?
 
T'ai Chi said:
If god(s) exist, would your worldview consider them to be natural objects?
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If they existed, they could be seen or measured. Unmanufactured things that can be seen or measured are by definition natural.
What a specific 'worldview' has to do with this is immaterial. And what is immaterial is by definition non-existent.
 
Yes.
Unless god created the natural world to exist in some kind of different realm apart from him.
I guess it depends on your definition of god.
 
If it is the pantheist God, yes. If it is a Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindi, Greek, Roman, Norse, or neopagan God, no.
 
You need to define god and natural object first.

In fact, the very feat of defining them would probably answer the question.

~~ Paul
 
Paul, get a dictionary.

Or better yet, since I am asking people what they think, they should use their own understandings of those words to answer the question.
 
~sigh~ Yet another utterly pointless question. :rolleyes:

At what point does posting all these pointless threads become spam?
 
wollery said:
~sigh~ Yet another utterly pointless question. :rolleyes:

At what point does posting all these pointless threads become spam?
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They aren't really pointless, at least not to Tai. Each one is a bit socratic and intends to nudge thoughts in a certain direction. Most of us though aren't taking the bait as intended.
 
T'ai Chi said:
Or better yet, since I am asking people what they think, they should use their own understandings of those words to answer the question.
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What if you don't have a personal definition of 'God'? Several atheists don't.

My answer to the question, to keep it short, is yes.
 
Rufo said:
What if you don't have a personal definition of 'God'? Several atheists don't.

My answer to the question, to keep it short, is yes.
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Then use a dictionary, or use their best idea. Surely, if atheists argue against the notion of god(s), they have notions of god(s).
 
T'ai Chi said:
Then use a dictionary, or use their best idea. Surely, if atheists argue against the notion of god(s), they have notions of god(s).
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Not necessarily. They are just arguing against other's notions of God(s).

I myself do think that an atheist should have a definition for 'God' to be able to state what exactly he/she is rejecting, but I have discussed it on this forum and it is clear that many atheists do not agree with me.

A dictionary will, I believe, provide several definitions of both 'God' and 'natural object', some may fit together, some may not.
 
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