Weyrich: gays "preoccupied with sex"

TM -- I'm not sexually attracted to Natebaby, so it's not something I would do. :D

TA -- Thanks! It's something that I really have wondered about for literally years!
 
this is the same stupid fear that gay teachers are going to "convert" students.

You know, an awful lot of priests and teachers go after children of the opposite sex.
 
The Mutha said:
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You know, one of the great mysteries of life for me is this... A large percentage of straight men get all uncomfortable when asked to think about two men having sex, but ask them about two women getting it on and somehow that's just peachy! Bring it on, the more, the merrier! Somehow the lesbians are really HOT but gays are sick and disgusting. How many of you straight men have fantasized about your girlfriend or wife rolling over in bed one day and saying "you know, my hot girlfriend (insert name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"? I bet most of you have never contemplated having that girlfriend or wife saying "you know, my studly friend (insert male name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"?

The number of times that a boyfriend or my ex-husband has asked me to watch some porn with him involving girl-on-girl action is amazing, but not a single one of those guys, in my 43 years on this planet, has asked if I would like to see two guys getting it on. Why is that?

That being said, my best friend, Natebaby, is a gay man and I can pretty well say that my boyfriend, The Boy, thinks about sex much more often then Natebaby does.

I personally think that the more homophobic a person is, the more they tend to think of homosexuals as only sexual beings. Natebaby will tell you that he is gay, but that's not what defines who he is a person. He would describe himself in all kinds of ways before he would get down to the relevancy that he is gay.

Why is it that some people tend to think that homosexuals have no "type" of person that they are attracted to? Natebaby and I have the same taste in men (which has led to some interesting conversations at times), but he is not attracted to EVERY man who walks down the street. I'm not attracted to EVERY man that walks down the street. Are straight men turned on by EVERY woman that walks down the street, no matter what her age, size, color or outfit? I would venture not, so why do they somehow think that every gay man is secretly lusting after them? Do you really think you are that hot? Or is it that you're upset that no gay men are hitting on you? :D

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Maybe I've just been astronomically lucky, but just about every woman I've had a relationship with was willing to have sex with me and another woman.

Or I could just be that bad in bed they are willing to switch teams...

:D

This is just my opinion, but I think women are more likely to be turned on by a lesbian scene than men are to be turned on by a male homosexual scene.

Wow, where did all that come from?
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Maybe you are repressing your desire to have another woman.

I'm teasing!
 
I've known many women who enjoyed watching a lesbian scene and who were completely turned off by a male homosexual scene. Some even inititated the watching of a lesbian scene. Only one ever asked me to watch a male homosexual scene.
 
kittynh said:
this is the same stupid fear that gay teachers are going to "convert" students.

You know, an awful lot of priests and teachers go after children of the opposite sex.
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It could be that their sexual repression comes out that way. Sex is very powerful. Just the other day our 3 year old daughter interrupted my wife and I and I just wanted to kill her. I mean it! Then I had to go take a cold shower.
 
The Atheist said:
Your words mirror exactly the sentiment that I've previously discussed in published articles - the absurd hypocrisy of men wanting to watch women, but being disgusted by men, having sex.
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Nonsense. What turns you on or off is simply part of your own sexual makeup. How is it hypocritical to be turned on by lesbian sex (or some distorted male fantasy of lesbian sex) and turned off by gay male sex? You might as well argue that it's hypocritical to prefer one gender to the other.
 
The Atheist said:
the absurd hypocrisy of men wanting to watch women, but being disgusted by men, having sex.
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Is that really hypocrisy?

I like to eat ham sandwiches. I don't like to eat turkey sandwiches. Does that make me a hypocrite?

Is it okay if I just happen to not like turkey sandwiches?
 
Luke T. said:
I've known many women who enjoyed watching a lesbian scene and who were completely turned off by a male homosexual scene. Some even inititated the watching of a lesbian scene. Only one ever asked me to watch a male homosexual scene.
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Maybe they were trying to protect you.
 
Boooeee -- no, not liking turkey sandwiches doesn't make you a hypocrite. But is it okay for you to think that people who do are disgusting beasts with no sense of taste?
 
The Mutha said:
Luke, have you ever asked one of the women if she'd be willing to bring another man into the scene? Or is it that you've only asked to bring in another woman? If so, is that because the idea of another man gives you the willies (as it were)? Or is it some other issue?
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I have never asked a woman to bring another man into the scene. I am heterosexual. Why does it sound hypocritical for a heterosexual man to enjoy TWO women? Why should it follow he would enjoy two men? That is not logical.

The woman who asked me to watch the gay male movie had ulterior motives. Her best friend was gay and he had fallen in love with me. I was completely ignorant of that fact. I didn't even know he was gay, despite the fact he had all the stereotypical signs. Effeminate mannerisms, even a lisp.

She had a fantasy of getting both of us together. She wanted to strap on a dildo and do him.

So she shows me a gay/bisexual movie to try and warm me up to the idea. It was a total turnoff.

It wasn't until months later that I was clued in to her plans, and she told me her best friend was in love with me. The only thought I had at that moment was, "Oh my God! He's seen me naked!"

No wonder he fell in love with me. ;)
 
The argument could be made that it is a male perversion to even enjoy watching a heterosexual couple having sex. After all, there is a male in the scene who is not you personally. Isn't that somehow a homo-erotic scene then?
 
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FreeChile said:
The argument could be made that it is a male perversion to even enjoy watching a heterosexual couple having sex. After all, there is a male in the scene who is not you personally. Isn't that somehow a homo-erotic scene then?
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Not when you try to block out his body with your thumb.
 
Luke -- But you have no problems with asking a woman to bring another woman into the scene even though you presume her to be a heterosexual, right?
 
FreeChile said:
You could easily another claim:

I don't know if straights are obsessed with sex but they are defined by who they are sexually attracted to. Sex is the what differentiates them from everyone else.

Your presumption is that being gay is abnormal.
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There was no presumtions. If some one is straight or gay you are deifning them by sexual attraction. Being gay is a minority so it is "abnormal" as it relates to the population, not as a judgement on what they do in their bedroom.
 
The Mutha said:
Luke -- But you have no problems with asking a woman to bring another woman into the scene even though you presume her to be a heterosexual, right?
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Sometimes it was their idea. Not mine.

And when the one asked me if we could bring in her gay friend, I was not offended nor got all huffy about it. My immediate emotional response after the initial surprise was pity for the guy. Unrequited love, and all that.

We stayed friends and everything. In fact, having everything in the open made us closer. At least from my perspective.
 
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