Weyrich: gays "preoccupied with sex"

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Paul Weyrich, of the Free Congress Foundation, called for Hastert's resignation in light of the Foley scandal, but then, after speaking with Hastert, decided to retract the call. Apparently Hastert denied knowing much about Foley's wrongdoing with the pages, and told Weyrich he had been honest about it all (and I can't think of any motivation for Hastert to lie about this--can you?).

In an interview on NPR's "All Things Considered," Weyrich remarked that "homosexuals tend to be preoccupied with sex," and that that's "an opinion of many psychologists and psychiatrists who have to deal with (gays)."

I'd like to see evidence that homosexuals are more obsessed with sex than heterosexuals--anyone know of any? I would think it might be fair to say that humans are obsessed with sex, or, speaking as a straight man, that perhaps men (straight and gay) are more obsessed with sex than women.

eta: you need to listen to the audio clip for the aforementioned quote, around 1:09.
 
He's got a good point, they are always trying to gay me up and sex me.
 
I think it would be more correct to say that Republicans are preoccupied with sex.

Just look at all the evidence:

Ken Starr

infatuation with Clinton's Oval Office BJ

infatuation with Internet Porn

Sexual Predators on the internet

family values

gay marriage

gays in general

Jeff Gannon

redefining marriage in the Constitution

etc.

(and how could I forget?)

Mark Foley
 
Mephisto said:
I don't know, but if you find a film that proves it, I'd like to see it. ;)
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Me too!

By the way, I've had a difficult time finding straight porn for men; there seems to be a shortage of it.

eta: if only someone would publish a magazine, let's say, aimed at men, that featured naked or scantily-clad women. That would be cool!! But no, only homos get that kind of thing. Sheesh.
 
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Gay men are men. Men are preoccupied with sex. So two gay men are twice the preoccupation. :)

It must be nice to be in a relationship where your partner wants it as much as you do...
 
Luke T. said:
Gay men are men. Men are preoccupied with sex. So two gay men are twice the preoccupation. :)

It must be nice to be in a relationship where your partner wants it as much as you do...
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I hate to admit it, but this is along the lines of what I was thinking.

Does anyone know whether men represent a larger proportion of gay people than women? If so then, yes, I bet gays as a group are more preoccupied with sex.

Oh, silly (ETA: wonderful) men! ;)
 
jimtron said:
In an interview on NPR's "All Things Considered," Weyrich remarked that "homosexuals tend to be preoccupied with sex," and that that's "an opinion of many psychologists and psychiatrists who have to deal with (gays)."
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I think this is the important part of the quote. It seems to be a funny claim to begin with. Perhaps they simply talk more about it to their psychologist/psychiatrist. But would that acutally show they were more preoccupied or that they were less inhibited?
 
Luke T. said:
Gay men are men. Men are preoccupied with sex. So two gay men are twice the preoccupation. :)

It must be nice to be in a relationship where your partner wants it as much as you do...
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Sex, yeah. But what's this "a relationship" that you speak of?
 
I don't know if gays are obsessed with sex but they are defined by who they are sexually attracted to. Sex is the what differentiates them from everyone else.
 
Another thing to keep in mind when stereotyping homosexuals, which is what's being done here.. we only know the ones who are "out." They may, as a group, exhibit different tendencies which would skew polls. It could be people bold enough to be out are also bold enough to discuss sexuality openly. In fact, they have to be.
 
firecoins said:
I don't know if gays are obsessed with sex but they are defined by who they are sexually attracted to. Sex is the what differentiates them from everyone else.
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You could easily another claim:

I don't know if straights are obsessed with sex but they are defined by who they are sexually attracted to. Sex is the what differentiates them from everyone else.

Your presumption is that being gay is abnormal.
 
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firecoins said:
I don't know if gays are obsessed with sex but they are defined by who they are sexually attracted to. Sex is the what differentiates them from everyone else.
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No, sex is what defines heterosexuals. It's what differentiates them from the norm.
 
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You know, one of the great mysteries of life for me is this... A large percentage of straight men get all uncomfortable when asked to think about two men having sex, but ask them about two women getting it on and somehow that's just peachy! Bring it on, the more, the merrier! Somehow the lesbians are really HOT but gays are sick and disgusting. How many of you straight men have fantasized about your girlfriend or wife rolling over in bed one day and saying "you know, my hot girlfriend (insert name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"? I bet most of you have never contemplated having that girlfriend or wife saying "you know, my studly friend (insert male name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"?

The number of times that a boyfriend or my ex-husband has asked me to watch some porn with him involving girl-on-girl action is amazing, but not a single one of those guys, in my 43 years on this planet, has asked if I would like to see two guys getting it on. Why is that?

That being said, my best friend, Natebaby, is a gay man and I can pretty well say that my boyfriend, The Boy, thinks about sex much more often then Natebaby does.

I personally think that the more homophobic a person is, the more they tend to think of homosexuals as only sexual beings. Natebaby will tell you that he is gay, but that's not what defines who he is a person. He would describe himself in all kinds of ways before he would get down to the relevancy that he is gay.

Why is it that some people tend to think that homosexuals have no "type" of person that they are attracted to? Natebaby and I have the same taste in men (which has led to some interesting conversations at times), but he is not attracted to EVERY man who walks down the street. I'm not attracted to EVERY man that walks down the street. Are straight men turned on by EVERY woman that walks down the street, no matter what her age, size, color or outfit? I would venture not, so why do they somehow think that every gay man is secretly lusting after them? Do you really think you are that hot? Or is it that you're upset that no gay men are hitting on you? :D

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Wow, where did all that come from?
 
The Mutha said:
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You know, one of the great mysteries of life for me is this... A large percentage of straight men get all uncomfortable when asked to think about two men having sex, but ask them about two women getting it on and somehow that's just peachy! Bring it on, the more, the merrier! Somehow the lesbians are really HOT but gays are sick and disgusting. How many of you straight men have fantasized about your girlfriend or wife rolling over in bed one day and saying "you know, my hot girlfriend (insert name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"? I bet most of you have never contemplated having that girlfriend or wife saying "you know, my studly friend (insert male name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"?

The number of times that a boyfriend or my ex-husband has asked me to watch some porn with him involving girl-on-girl action is amazing, but not a single one of those guys, in my 43 years on this planet, has asked if I would like to see two guys getting it on. Why is that?
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This is all cultural. I remember seeing a nature show about a tribe where the female was the dominant one. The female in that tribe had multiple male mates and I was surprised to see her advancing on them sexually and treating them as love toys. She had one young and one older mate. The older guy was the first husband and he seem no longer able sexually. So the younger one got all the attention.
 
The Mutha said:
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Wow, where did all that come from?
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Beautiful! Now, in the name of enlightened values and liberty and freedom and reason, get your boyfriend and your gay friend drunk and suggest a threesome. Take pictures. It's for science, and, um, democracy. Yeah. Clearly the time has come for the wounds of the world to be healed with love, sweet love. Webcasted. They're both hot, right?

I'm just kidding, btw. If they're too drunk, they won't be any good.

Kidding again. If they're hot enough, they don't have to be very good.
 
The Mutha said:
:soapbox

You know, one of the great mysteries of life for me is this... A large percentage of straight men get all uncomfortable when asked to think about two men having sex, but ask them about two women getting it on and somehow that's just peachy! Bring it on, the more, the merrier! Somehow the lesbians are really HOT but gays are sick and disgusting. How many of you straight men have fantasized about your girlfriend or wife rolling over in bed one day and saying "you know, my hot girlfriend (insert name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"? I bet most of you have never contemplated having that girlfriend or wife saying "you know, my studly friend (insert male name here) would love to join us for some hot sex, would you be okay with that"?

The number of times that a boyfriend or my ex-husband has asked me to watch some porn with him involving girl-on-girl action is amazing, but not a single one of those guys, in my 43 years on this planet, has asked if I would like to see two guys getting it on. Why is that?

That being said, my best friend, Natebaby, is a gay man and I can pretty well say that my boyfriend, The Boy, thinks about sex much more often then Natebaby does.

I personally think that the more homophobic a person is, the more they tend to think of homosexuals as only sexual beings. Natebaby will tell you that he is gay, but that's not what defines who he is a person. He would describe himself in all kinds of ways before he would get down to the relevancy that he is gay.

Why is it that some people tend to think that homosexuals have no "type" of person that they are attracted to? Natebaby and I have the same taste in men (which has led to some interesting conversations at times), but he is not attracted to EVERY man who walks down the street. I'm not attracted to EVERY man that walks down the street. Are straight men turned on by EVERY woman that walks down the street, no matter what her age, size, color or outfit? I would venture not, so why do they somehow think that every gay man is secretly lusting after them? Do you really think you are that hot? Or is it that you're upset that no gay men are hitting on you? :D

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Wow, where did all that come from?
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I was going to edit your post down, but it's so BLOODY OUTSTANDING that I've repeated the whole thing and nominated you for the post.

Your words mirror exactly the sentiment that I've previously discussed in published articles - the absurd hypocrisy of men wanting to watch women, but being disgusted by men, having sex. I made a comment in a thread about sex scenes in movies where I listed the best gay scene I'd seen (Harry Hamlin in Making Love, and no I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain yet.)

I don't get at all turned on by gay sex, but I would no more hire a "lesbo" movie than I would a gay one. When it's in context, like any sexual imagery, it doesn't register on my radar.

More appropriate title:

Gay Sex - "men preoccupied with it"
 
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