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Sexual education

Windom

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Why do people think sexual education for teens or especially for kids is something harmful to them?

I personally knew everything about where the children come from since I was... yes, all my life. My parents told me everything like it is. In details.

And what? No harm ;) I didn't care much about it at the age of 4 or five. Knowledge about sex to me was equal to knowledge about any other thing in the world. Where that mythical harm come from? I think it's another hoax, relic from middle ages.
 
Many feel it will simply entice their kids to experiment; that such education is equivalent to tacit permission. Odd, isn't it, how people seem to forget completely their own adolescence?
 
I had the facts of life straight quite early on, but couldn't fit them into the rest of my education.

True story from when I was about 7 or 8:

Classmate "do you know what a virgin is?"
Me: "er...no"
Classmate "A virgin is someone who hasn't had sex!"
Me: "that can't be right! Mary was a virgin and she had a baby!"
 
I am reminded of the parents trying to explain porn to their kids in the south park lord of the rings spoof.

"So where does the midget covered in mayonases come in?"
 
I'll be willing to bet you'll find it is typically religious influence whenever a parent stands up and says "thou shalt not teach my child about the basics of life!". The bible says you shouldnt have sex until marriage, dontchaknow.
 
P&T have an amazing BS on sex education, it's really eye opening. Basically the government keeps throwing out more and more tax payers money to teach the same lessons harder and more extreme each year, but according to student polls, it's working less and less.
 
Especially since sex is a natural part of life. You should know the details as soon as you're ready to understand it.

Causes concern for some folks now, especially with a new vaccine for the HPV virus. It will protect girls & women from roughly 50% of cervical cancers. But the best time to vaccinate girls is before they're sexually active. But even so, some parents are really reluctant to vaccinate their daughter, because it might seem they're condoning sexual activity. Geez.
 
About every friend of mine knew "everything" pretty early. No one had any traumas, bad experiences or started sexual life at 9 years old. And why should they? Denying sexual education for kids and teens is middle ages relic and, in P&T words, completely ********.

Also I did some unscientific research - poll in other forum, none of recipients had any bad comsequences because of knowing about sex. ;)
 
I don't understand how people can still think that Sex Ed is more harmful than no Sex Ed.

Hormones are going to take over at some point, sometimes that's at 13, sometimes later. Wouldn't you rather your kids be educated and know how to protect themselves?

I guess some parents would rather live in a fantasy world where their little Johnny or Suzy isn't doing all those things the other kids are doing. Wake up, you're endangering your kid.


/rant
 
CP489 said:
I guess some parents would rather live in a fantasy world where their little Johnny or Suzy isn't doing all those things the other kids are doing. Wake up, you're endangering your kid.


/rant
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And we have a winner! (Don't forget to holler "bingo!") :p
 
Is keeping your child ignorant about sex a form of child abuse?
Is keeping your child ignorant about maths a form of child abuse?
I say yes to both questions. They are both needed in real life.
 
I had a friend, who got pregnant at 16 because she thought she couldn't get pregnant the first time she'd had sex. But then she objected to her daughter (now middle school age) having sex ed. This was such a WTF moment for me. It didn't even dawn on her that if she'd had sex ed, she might have known that you can get preggers the very first time you have sex. Sheesh.
 
Lisa Simpson said:
I had a friend, who got pregnant at 16 because she thought she couldn't get pregnant the first time she'd had sex. But then she objected to her daughter (now middle school age) having sex ed. This was such a WTF moment for me. It didn't even dawn on her that if she'd had sex ed, she might have known that you can get preggers the very first time you have sex. Sheesh.
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Yeah, I think if you teach kids about pregnancy, and all the funky diseases and stuff you can get from sex, that might actually scare them into avoiding it for awhile.

Tell them about chlamydia.
*shudder*
 
I had a lot of sources of sex education. The first ones were my friends and the motorcycle gang who used to come to a field near my house and have sex with their girlfriends. I got to see first hand what sex was and many of them used condoms so I learned about those. Then there were the neighbor girls who played "show me you and I'll show you mine" or "doctor" or "house" with me. Then my father sat me down and asked me if I knew about sex and I said yeah and explained what I knew. He told me the medically correct terms for the words I used which was cool for a while since the other kids didn't know some of those words. Then my parents put me in a sex education class which was weird since I was with mostly other kids who actually were in need of sex education (I was a virgin but I guess my parents were worried cause I liked girls and they liked me). Then in highschool we had sex education as part of our PE/health class. Then there was Maureen and Candy who really taught me a lot about sex. :) Overall I had a great sex education but not so sure I needed it much except for the last part.
 
A word of caution. Learning about sex by watching others do it is a good idea in any other subject however whatever you do, do not get caught. You may get taught advanced techniques of another very painful subject. Unless Dogdoctor had permission to watch?
 
Sex ed sure scared me celibate. I never understood how my peers didn't feel the same, subjected as they were to the same "have sex and you will get pregnant and infected with the following incurable diseases" curriculum that I was every year from 5th grade to 8th grade, and again during the mandatory "health" class in high school.
 
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I was taught about sex at a young age, well kind of. I'm not sure when I learned the specifics but I learned that adults who are married and love each other have "special times" (hint to parents: don't use everyday words as a pseudonym for sex, now everytime I hear "special times", and everytime I have ever heard it, it brings up interesting mental images. "Christmas is a special time for the whole family", disturbing). My mother, being rather of two minds at the time, being a very strict conservative christian, but one who had a degree in counseling and was rather liberal-minded in many other ways, first taught me that sex (and kissing!) was to be had only when married. Then when I was about 12, we had all left the church by then, and she had a turn-around and decided that in college I was "to have lots of sex." I had sex at what some would consider a young age, but I was quite mature and careful and have zero regrets. I wasn't caught off-guard with no protection, I used condoms and birth control pills. I have since decided that I want to be a sex therapist and educator after I finish my degree(s). "Protecting" kids from sex education just makes no sense to me, and the whole argument "well parents should decide when to teach their kids about sex" would work, if parents actually DID IT! But so many don't, and really don't want to, which is sad in itself. But I think it is a public and personal health necessity to have good sex education, throughout life. A fast-growing group of STI patients are geriatrics who by and large don't know about such things, everyone needs to know about sex!
 
Ha! My parents never had the guts to tell me anything about sex. They were too embarrassed. I think my mom sent off for a Dear Abby pamphlet about periods for my sister. That was their best effort. I got a lot of overly abstract instruction from our lovely public schools, that managed to avoid all the details and the mechanics and concentrated mostly on horror stories of STDs and pregnancies.

So, I wound up doing what all curious young boys do. I went to the library and looked it up, and read all about it in several different sources until my curiousity was satisfied, and that was the end of the matter until the passage of time brought the opportunity to pursue the practical side. The only psychological trauma inflicted by the acquisition of the knowledge was a profound and lasting irritation that people make such a fuss over what is essentially a universal and inevitable biological reality.

The saddest part is that I know plenty of people who are all grown up and have been having sex for years, but are still woefully ignorant about it.
 
TragicMonkey said:
The saddest part is that I know plenty of people who are all grown up and have been having sex for years, but are still woefully ignorant about it.
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Exactly, if you ever watched "Talk Sex With Sue" you would know that is true! Like the woman who wanted to know if she could get pregnant from sitting on a couch her husband had ejaculated on days earlier. Or the quote I just recently read a little story from a masters and johnson book about a long-married couple who had been stimulating a freckle on the wife believing it to be a very basic pleasure organ of female anatomy.
 
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