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9/11 video by responding medic

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In the week of 9/11/01 CNN broadcast a video made by a medic or doctor who responded to the tragedy. He had a videocamera strapped to his arm and filmed the whole thing, while attending to victims, and seeking shelter from the dustclouds of the collapsing towers.

Anyone remember this film? And knows if this film is on the net somewhere?
 
I've never seen that before. Dr. Heath is one cool customer.
 
IIRC he later was a studio guest at CNN, I think (not sure) they then showed more of the film.
 
So much for TS123½'s (and others') "pyroclastic flow" :nope:. In fact is there any record of anybody being killed by the dust-cloud, scary as it was? Of course, people may have been struck by falling debris, but I seriously doubt that the dust itself would pose any immidiate danger to a healthy person.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
So much for TS123½'s (and others') "pyroclastic flow" :nope:. In fact is there any record of anybody being killed by the dust-cloud, scary as it was? Of course, people may have been struck by falling debris, but I seriously doubt that the dust itself would pose any immidiate danger to a healthy person.

Hans
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I suppose only an autopsy report could say for sure. Many people had serious respiratory problems from the dust that required hospitalization. Keep in mind that the clip is edited. It was pitch black in the dust cloud for about 10 minutes.
 
It did pose a long term health risk though, if I'm not mistaken. In fact, I saw a program on TV about how some of the firefighters were fighting the government for more compensation money for their health care costs.

....still isn't the same as a pyroclastic flow though =)
 
Here is a CNN transcript of eithe rthat showing of this video or another. Probably another since this transcript has a Heath scene cut from the YouTube video:

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.53.html

Note that this is from 4:20pm on September 11, 2001.

Also note the brief interview at the beginning, with structural engineer Jim Destefano.

The vertical elements are columns, and those are the elements that are holding the whole building up, and those are the critical, vulnerable elements that clearly failed in a buckling mode from the high temperatures and the damage from the impact.
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If the conspiracy buffs like instant reporting and instant reactions, why don't they use this quote? :rolleyes:

By the way, which tower does Heath record collapsing?
 
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Yes, I think the clue there should be in the "pyro" part of the word. Didn't the "troofers" DO high-school geography/natural sciences/whatever you call it there?
 
MRC_Hans said:
I seriously doubt that the dust itself would pose any immidiate danger to a healthy person.
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The fireproofing on the lower floors of WTC was mainly asbestos. Concerns about it's health issues were just coming up so they switched to the spray-on fireproofing higher up and encapsulated the asbestos on the lower floors. Among other things ,there was a lot of asbestos in the air that day.
 
That was the reason I used the term "immidiate" danger. Long-term effects remain to be seen.

Hans
 
From the talking head at the beginning of that video:
We now have some pictures that were taken by an amateur photographer who was on the scene near the explosion...
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We need to notify the LC Forum so they can add this to their too-long list of witnesses who use the word "explosion," which they copy and paste the whole of anytime anyone questions whether there were bombs.
 
MRC_Hans said:
That was the reason I used the term "immidiate" danger. Long-term effects remain to be seen.
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I for one noticed your use of that word. As for the long-term effects, it's never a good idea to expose people to airborne asbestos fibers, but the disabling effects observed as a result of asbestos were from people who mined the stuff, working for decades in asbestos mines. Out of all the things to be worried about if you were in the vicinity of the collapsing towers, I think asbestos has to be pretty far down the list, behind breathing the concrete dust even.
 
This whole "Pyroclastic Flow" is so ludicrous its painful.

The dust/ash cloud was huge. It was awful, and I do wonder what the heck I was breathing in that day. It was also hot ash, not burning hot by any measure, but hot nonetheless. Certainly no hotter than a hot bathtub.

When we was pulling people out of the dust and in to our building, we would open the door and get a blasting of dust. It hurt if it got in your eyes, but had no effect on your exposed skin.

In fact, crazy as it sounds, a guy I worked with actually went out in the dust (not when it was pitch black, but still really really thick) to the deli next door to get a sandwich.

No problem.

If it was a pyroclastic flow, he (and I) would have been incinerated.

Pyroclastic flow... Bah.
 
I remember that video well, and it sends a chill down my spine whenever I see it: The chirping noises you hear are PASS devices, that every firefighter wears, going off. They only sound when a firefighter doesn't move for 30 seconds- meaning he's either unconscious or dead. It's a sound no one in the fire service wants to hear
 
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