Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Thank you, too - for "non-answering" good questions. :D

I know by now that you have conveinently forgotton what my question was, so I'm reposting it for you. Can you be reasonable?


Come to a point, CHRIS. You have something? Okay - give it to us and we will debunk it.

PS: I´m not talking about evidence of you in form of any speculations. So think bevore posting your evidence...

Christophera said:
Where are the supposed steel core columns in this image. Why are they not seen penetrating the stairwell or right of the stairwell or in the foreground.

These are reasonable questions, it is not reasonable to NOT answer them.
 
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It would make a different world.

I want to know if folks are still capable of responding with an understanding of love and courage.

Not a dead end, a long journey. You don't have the vision to see where it leads nor the determination/concern/courage to arrive at the destination.

Okay, i see you gave it a try. I do know that people are still able to respond with an understanding of love and courage. What´s the question?
ETA: Where do you come from that you have this kind of question?

But let me ask: You´re digging so deep in the CD-theorie - what hard proof would you have if it was a controlled demolition? Do the theorists have any hard proofs beside some pics or videos or seismologic data?

The data of Dr. Steven Jones is trash - he even can not proof if whatever he found is from the collapse, from a CD or from the destruction work on ground zero. He even does not have a proof that his samples are from ground zero.

So why in god greens earth would someone try it nevertheless? This sounds stupid to me, sensless, wasting time.

If you believe in a Gov-conspiracy, dig that deep into the political and involvement side - there might be somthing left for my impression.
 
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Please don´t reply - i want a serious answer from Christophera.
 
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Please don´t reply - i want a serious answer from Christophera.

I want one from you too. And my question is more reasonable to the topic this thread. I have not evaded, you still are. I answered the first one relevant to my thread immediately (Concrete can fracture to fall instantly) This board is designed with its quote debility to make unaccountibility. Here are your questions, you figure it out. Then answer my question.

What difference will it make if you are right and it is a concrete core?

What difference would it be if it was a controlled demoliton?

What do you really want to know?

All your discussions and attemps will bring you there >>> Dead End! <<<

So why are you fooling everone in here? :confused:

Oh, the last one I didn't answer. I will now. You are your own fools I'm just making it obvious to those reading
 
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I want one from you too. And my question is more rasonable to the topic this thread. I have not evaded, you still are. This board is designed with its quote debility to make unaccountibility. here are your questions, you figure it out. Then answer my question.

What is the topic of this thread?
"How to beat a dead horse into a volcanic cloud of dust to say it was a controlled demolition"? Serious! :boggled:

What is the question you have to fade away from mine?
 
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I've seen that site and they do not have the images i use on the site, so there can hardly be answers to my questons about them there.

I would be surprised if you actually know the meaning of the word "idiot". Like twinstead doesn't actually know the origin of "insane".

Haha, you really are good. You are provided with SCIENTIFIC FACTS and you don't agree with them because there are no pretty pictures that you've PROBABLY ALREADY SEEN?

You won't even look at video evidence; when someone posted hard VISUAL evidence, you said (and I quote):

Sorry, no time for another video of the towers. I'm fully satisfied as the visibility is not good enough to apply an accurate time. The fall was way too fast and it went to far down to be a collapse under any definition.

Let me highlight something for you:

Sorry, no time for another video of the towers. I'm fully satisfied as the visibility is not good enough to apply an accurate time. The fall was way too fast and it went to far down to be a collapse under any definition.


You YOURSELF claim that the visibility is not good enough. Now, let me ask you something.

If the central core was made purely of concrete (containing some kind of explosive), how can you prove that? I looked at that absolutely retarded site you posted, and given there are a bunch of his self drawn images, along with INCONCLUSIVE photos of the collapse, and a clip from an article that for all we know he could have PULLED OUT OF HIS ASS.

However, since you are so sure that it is a concrete core, let's assume that it is (for the sake of argument). How does that prove that explosive devices were planted in the core? In fact, your arguments ARE IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION WITH EACH OTHER. You are saying that the explosives used made the building fall that fast; HOWEVER, you are also saying that the thermite was in the concrete core that was somehow STILL STANDING after these explosions tore down the rest of the building (at "free fall" speeds as you say). YOU have yet to explain how YOUR RIDICULOUS THEORY WORKS.

Now, for some citations. On the page I linked, the author made the following statements about the "free fall" of the towers:

The rate of free fall in a vacuum, at least, is easier to define. The towers were around 417 metres tall (excluding the spire), giving 417 = 0.5 gt^2, so with g = 9.8m/s^2 that gives a time of about 9.22 seconds. So if you dropped a ball off the roof, and there were no air resistance, then that’s the time it would take to reach the ground.

So that is the speed of free fall in a vacuum, which is what you're trying to prove that the towers fell at, correct?

Okay, now ignoring the fact that quite obviously the debris was falling at a much higher rate than the building (which by the way COMPLETELY DEBUNKS YOUR THEORY), let's look at the siesmic evidence:

There is one way to try and resolve this. We know the start time of the graph (9:28:30 in New York), and we also know from LDEO that it took about 17 seconds for the signal to travel through the ground, therefore if the start time of the North Tower collapse can be determined by another means, then we’ll be able to see how the seismic record relates to other evidence.

And as it happens, we can do just that. 9-11 Research point out that a CNN video recorded the moment of the collapse, and we calculate that their clock turns from 10:27 to 10:28 around 24 seconds before the tower began to fall. That is, the collapse began around 10:28:24; adding 17 seconds for the signal to reach the LDEO station gives us 10:28:41; and that’s 11 seconds from the start of the chart.

The chart then indicates that the fall took approximately 15.5 seconds, which is quite a bit slower than your "free fall". QED Your original question has been answered on that site (with verifiable scientific facts AND images). If you actually bother going to the site I pointed out, you can find many references, pictures, links etc to BACK THIS UP.

So will you please just shut up and properly research the BS you're spouting before you start preaching nonsense? How about instead of trying to prove that the government killed thousands of innocent people (for no apparent reason, unless you believe in that Unocal ****, which is also handled on that site), you respect those that died and just accept that something terrible happened on 9/11, that will hopefully never happen again.
 
There's a growing belief that Christophera may be ill.
In which case he may be pathologicaly incapable of answering questions.

He seems to be resorting to gibberish quite a bit.
 
You are your own fools I'm just making it obvious to those reading

I'm sorry, but I just have to point out that your dogmatic views coupled with your inability to accept ANY evidence provided WHATSOEVER leads me to believe that you are simply a troll.
 
I want one from you too. And my question is more rasonable to the topic this thread. I have not evaded, you still are. This board is designed with its quote debility to make unaccountibility. here are your questions, you figure it out. Then answer my question.

What is the topic of this thread?
"How to beat a dead horse into a volcanic cloud of dust to say it was a controlled demolition"? Serious! :boggled:

Okay, i see you gave it a try. I do know that people are still able to respond with an understanding of love and courage. What´s the question?
ETA: Where do you come from that you have this kind of question?

But let me ask: You´re digging so deep in the CD-theorie - what hard proof would you have if it was a controlled demolition? Do the theorists have any hard proofs beside some pics or videos or seismologic data?

The data of Dr. Steven Jones is trash - he even can not proof if whatever he found is from the collapse, from a CD or from the destruction work on ground zero. He even does not have a proof that his samples are from ground zero.

So why in god greens earth would someone try it nevertheless? This sounds stupid to me, sensless, wasting time.

If you believe in a Gov-conspiracy, dig that deep into the political and involvement side - there might be somthing left for my impression.

What is the question you have to fade away from mine?
 
ETA: Where do you come from that you have this kind of question?

No offense but he already answered this:

I work as a surveyor and draftsman for a civil engineer. While I've done this for 20 years I've also done drilling and blasting and studied for a blaster license. I've been welding for 33 years. I do layout for steel and concrete structures frequently and also work with material testing laboratories on a regular basis.

In 1990 i saw a documentary called "Construction Of The Twin Towers". It was 2 hours in length and very intimate with the design, materials and sequnce of WTC 1. It took about a year after 9-11 to remember enough to realize what has been done to create the event.

Anyway I think my bigass post a little ways up this page basically covers everything. If he ignores that, then I'm not going to come back to this thread anymore, because it will confirm my suspicion that he is just a troll, and it is a waste of time debating (lol) with him.
 
Houston to Lisa... Houston to Lisa...

Stop laughing about us earthlings and say something. :D
 
What is the topic of this thread?
"How to beat a dead horse into a volcanic cloud of dust to say it was a controlled demolition"? Serious! :boggled:

What is the question you have to fade away from mine?

OMG!

I repeat the question for him and he cannot find it! And then he continues with the same garbage that makes this thread so long.

That is the very purpose of all the nonsense posts, is to obscure the ones that have quality that show up on this board as soon as one starts trying to deal with difficult truths.

My question is the last quote of myself in the top post of this page.
 
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"Where are the supposed steel core columns in this image. Why are they not seen penetrating the stairwell or right of the stairwell or in the foreground."

My answer to your question is:
Where is Ronny the Clown on this image?

...it´s a DEAD END!
 
Yappari...

You completely ignored my post. Well, I'm out of this thread then. See you guys; it's a waste of time, trust me.
 
Christophera said:
I've seen that site and they do not have the images i use on the site, so there can hardly be answers to my questons about them there.

I would be surprised if you actually know the meaning of the word "idiot". Like twinstead doesn't actually know the origin of "insane".

Haha, you really are good. You are provided with SCIENTIFIC FACTS and you don't agree with them because there are no pretty pictures that you've PROBABLY ALREADY SEEN?

You won't even look at video evidence; when someone posted hard VISUAL evidence, you said (and I quote):

The site you linked to doesn't address the concrete core issue which is intrinsic to the entire analysis.

I'm only dealing with this one aspect of your post here. This board has such crappy quoting capacity it is just too difficult to address multiple subjects.
 
"Where are the supposed steel core columns in this image. Why are they not seen penetrating the stairwell or right of the stairwell or in the foreground."

My answer to your question is:
Where is Ronny the Clown on this image?

...it´s a DEAD END!

Okay, I can translate. You cannot answer the queston without showing that there are no steel core columns where they should be. Try emoticons, they will make your posts look more intelligent.
 
Okay, so you obviously didn't read all of my post then... (otherwise you would have noticed this:

If the central core was made purely of concrete (containing some kind of explosive), how can you prove that? I looked at that absolutely retarded site you posted, and given there are a bunch of his self drawn images, along with INCONCLUSIVE photos of the collapse, and a clip from an article that for all we know he could have PULLED OUT OF HIS ASS.

However, since you are so sure that it is a concrete core, let's assume that it is (for the sake of argument). How does that prove that explosive devices were planted in the core? In fact, your arguments ARE IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION WITH EACH OTHER. You are saying that the explosives used made the building fall that fast; HOWEVER, you are also saying that the thermite was in the concrete core that was somehow STILL STANDING after these explosions tore down the rest of the building (at "free fall" speeds as you say). YOU have yet to explain how YOUR RIDICULOUS THEORY WORKS.
)

The quoting mechanism on this board is fine. See a normal person would take what they want to quote, copy all the quotes into notepad, then just put the quote tags around each individual section. Not hard.
 
...hard Evidence Is Destroyed...
Dead End!


This Is All I Have To Know.
 
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