Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Oliver said:
We all should tell these Chris/TS1234 Stereotypes, that we also believe in the controlled demolition and the thermite-crap. So they might start to think what they want to do next with this information... NOTHING! It´s worth- and sensleless... :boggled:
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Or...

We could start agreeing with him until he starts to become suspicious. We are all paid by US government after all (by the way, can I receive future payments in Euros rather than Dollars? Thank you). If we (the disinfos) agree that there was a concrete core, it means there wasn't.
 
Christophera,

Where is the concrete core ?

Could it, maybe, possibly, be that you are mistaking about that PBS documentary, and that what you think was an hour long section about a concrete core, was actually about the retaining wall, surrounding the WTC foundation?
 
My apologies if this has been posted already.

It seems that Christophera is butting heads over at LC over his non-existent concrete core:

s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12935

And as has been noted on this board previously, the LC crowd can come up with very lucid arguments if something goes against their 'belief'.

Wouldn't it be something if they would apply that kind of logical thinking to Do-Over's Mockumentary?

Hey, I'm just asking questions. ;)
 
Bell said:
Christophera,

Where is the concrete core ?

Could it, maybe, possibly, be that you are mistaking about that PBS documentary, and that what you think was an hour long section about a concrete core, was actually about the retaining wall, surrounding the WTC foundation?
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Not a chance and, ........ the raw evidence supports concrete but not steel columns.

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Christophera said:
Not a chance and, ........ the raw evidence supports concrete but not steel columns.

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Christopher, a small and vague picture of some shape hidden behind the dustclouds is not raw evidence.

Blueprint are. Testimonies by engineers or constructors are. The PBS documentary could be. You fail to provide any of this.

But let us take it the other way. Instead of you trying to convince us that indeed the Trade Towers had a concrete core, what does it take for us to convince you that they had not?
 
longfellow said:
My apologies if this has been posted already.

It seems that Christophera is butting heads over at LC over his non-existent concrete core:

s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=12935

And as has been noted on this board previously, the LC crowd can come up with very lucid arguments if something goes against their 'belief'.

Wouldn't it be something if they would apply that kind of logical thinking to Do-Over's Mockumentary?

Hey, I'm just asking questions. ;)
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There isn't anybody there competent enough that also beleives that deeply in what FEMA has to say about the core to butt heads with. One lone idiot has tried to interpret construction photos and inadvertantly provided me with evidence. Giving me a picture that actually shows the top of the footing for the concrete core wall.

The bozo though it was the perimeter wall even though that is 70 foot more in elevation of the elevator pit and 60 + feet further out. Doh!!

I believe they post here as they quoted JREF posts over there. This figures.

I've corrected the notations of it.

elev.pits.core.footing.CORR.jpg
 
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Bell said:
Christopher, a small and vague picture of some shape hidden behind the dustclouds is not raw evidence.

Blueprint are. Testimonies by engineers or constructors are. The PBS documentary could be. You fail to provide any of this.

But let us take it the other way. Instead of you trying to convince us that indeed the Trade Towers had a concrete core, what does it take for us to convince you that they had not?
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Actually I show you where the blueprints are. Go get 'em!

http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive020602.html

In this way you will discover, we don't have courts either!

The documentary is called "The Construction Of The Twin Towers" Go get it!
Yea, PBS lies. I'm sure the liars haven't been there long enough to know tho. In this way you will find out how infiltrated the .org is.

You cannot convince me that the towers had steel core columns. I know for absolute certain that the core was concrete. Forget it, a waste of your time.

Images are raw evidence, and they are clear enough to reveal gross strcutural features adn they do. I have all of the raw evidence. You have nothing but lies, believe them if you like. Try and share them and I will be there to challenge you.

 
defaultdotxbe said:
could you at least post som enew pictures of the core, those 2 are getting boring
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Sorry, go watch TV. They always have something new and exciting.

I only have so much evidence and its only boring because your counterparts here cannot accept it or show it to be wrong.
 
while you are here . . .the missing explosion? . . .of the mysterious box in the cloud? why nobody saw or heard such a cataclysm? and I never did understand how the towers fell?
 
Christophera said:
Actually I show you where the blueprints are. Go get 'em!

http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive020602.html

In this way you will discover, we don't have courts either!

The documentary is called "The Construction Of The Twin Towers" Go get it!
Yea, PBS lies. I'm sure the liars haven't been there long enough to know tho. In this way you will find out how infiltrated the .org is.

You cannot convince me that the towers had steel core columns. I know for absolute certain that the core was concrete. Forget it, a waste of your time.

Images are raw evidence, and they are clear enough to reveal gross strcutural features adn they do. I have all of the raw evidence. You have nothing but lies, believe them if you like. Try and share them and I will be there to challenge you.

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Bolding mine.

Well, I guess this discussion has come to an end, then? We cannot convince you, you cannot convince us. Dead end.
 
Bell said:
Bolding mine.

Well, I guess this discussion has come to an end, then? We cannot convince you, you cannot convince us. Dead end.
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Most important is that you cannot produce images from the demolition that show ANY of the supposed steel core columns, but I can show you images of what can only be concrete as the core itself or segments of concrete shear wall

Your argument has come to an end. You cannot support the steel core columns without resorting to documentaton that is suspect or misinterpreting construction photos.

I have the proof. It is eternal, but you don't WANT to recognize it so you are giving up on trying to prove your point.
 
bob_kark said:
Got a link for that?

imdb

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No, I don't waste time and I don't need the documentary. You want it, go for it. File a F.O.I.A then test the courts.

All I need is informed folks with open minds that are interested in the truth. w t f I'm posting here, I don't know.
 
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Christophera said:
Sorry, go watch TV. They always have something new and exciting.

I only have so much evidence and its only boring because your counterparts here cannot accept it or show it to be wrong.
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you only have so much evidence because youve only found 2 pictures that can be properly misinterpreted

seriously, dont you think if the WTC had a concrete core thered be more pictures of it during contruction?

maybe if you can find that documentary you saw you can get some screenshots
 
defaultdotxbe said:
you only have so much evidence because youve only found 2 pictures that can be properly misinterpreted
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Hey, no one here has ever tried a logical interpretation other than what I provide of the core.

I've asked, they won't do it. I've asked why the supposed "steel core columns" are not seen. No logical answers.

Better look again.

http://concretecore.741.com

There are a lot more than 2 images showing concrete. There are none from the construction showing steel columns IN THE CORE.

defaultdotxbe said:
seriously, dont you think if the WTC had a concrete core thered be more pictures of it during contruction?

maybe if you can find that documentary you saw you can get some screenshots
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Not after seeing the documentary. The videographers had a hard time finding good pictures of it amongst the thousands of stills and hundreds of reels of 16mm film. Why? It was 35 to 60 feet from the perimeter and always in shadow, or covered with forms inside and out and almost always 40 feet below the top floor. The demolition images provide the best view ever.

They would of the steel core columns too, if they existed and they did not.
 
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chris, the pictures you posted were OF the collapse itself, the so-called core in the cloud picture is taken AFTER the collapse and AFTER the pictures you posted. This is a preposterous answer, this is lunacy - you have no answer to the questions!! There would have been a massive explosion AFTER the towers collapsed in your model. Have you ever even watched a video of the collapse yourself? I don't think so. I think you are getting all of this from photos.

eta And how did the towers fall again, the things surrounding the 'core' (the box in the cloud thats still standing tall in your picture, after the towers are in rubble?) I must have missed that part of the thread sorry, long thread. A different set of explosives or the planes? It's got to be one or the other, right? Then what was the use of the c4 again? Just to kill off the core?
 
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