Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[Belz...]

Nominated.

And you owe me a new keyboard. Mine now has orange juice all over it.

That's why I never drink while reading stuff like this.

 

[jhunter1163]

Christophera:

Would you mind providing me, via PM, your dealer's info? He's giving you some GOOOOOOOOOOD (rule8).

Thanks.

 

[Christophera]

Morning Chris,

I was going to try to chat with you by asking questions one at a time and waiting for individual answers, but it seems my posts were kinda' just "one in the crowd" and didn't get the attention they deseved. <smile> But, in the intervening wait time, I decided to change of my conversation.

Soooooo, from reading your recent posts, I have some new ideas and questions I need your help with:

As I understand it now, you're the only one who comprehends the enormity and interconnectedness of all these things -- but you seem to be having a difficult time persuading The Powers That Be of your knowledge. Is that right? In real life (not cyber) no one else knows what you know? Not even a friend? (You know how notoriously bad at keeping secrets they are! You can't tell friends anything without them blabbing.)

If you're the only one who gets it, then where to from here? What happens when you finally bring the evidence to light in real life and get it through everyone's thick skulls? What will the result be?

I'm apparently a victim of the system and need elucidation,
Miss
P.S. Old business:
It still wouldn't hurt my feelings if you straightened me out on the seeming disagreement between the evidence you posted that said a person undergoing hypnotism had to be a willing participant and your saying it was done unconsciously.

You act as if we knew everything about the mind, or at least you do. (not)
Of course you cannot even prove the towers core to be as FEMA states it was by using the absolutes of the demolition photos. Where I can do it over and over.
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The site,
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has redundant proof from images of the demolition as well as links to web sites of universities and engineers, not at all CT'ers as those here would term many sites.
And all here have utterly failed to explain rates f fall near free fall as well as total pulverzation, how pitiful when they act so superior.
here is the only feasible and realistic explanation for near free fall and total pulverization on the web.

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Morning Missy,

I had answered your last question but the garbagemen here dump bins of refuse on the thread to try and obscure the good information that is here. My answer is on the previous page.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57426&page=96

No I'm not the only one that comprehends but I'm the only one that is aware of how vital it is to gain an understanding.

What is unconscious is better than secret. So those with secrets do not even know they have them.

Not sure what evidence you refer to or the seeming disagreement but I'll give a conprehensive explanation to what think you are asking.

The knowledge of hypnosis is corrupted and generally people are led to believe that if a person des not want to be hypnotised they cannot be. Generally this would be true. Take a situation where a person was hypnotized at childhood, given what is called a "deep trance basis". That basis creattes a ready made state of hypnotic rapport. That person can often be placed in a trance and they cannot resist or without theie knowing it.

The other side, the ancient hypnosists, have been driven into an exclusive unconscious state and enter post hypnotically into a trance and conduct potent hypnosis that might be capable of taking a person who has no basis, directly into a deep state, depending on the person.

Most importantly is the hyperamnesia,

INFERENCE ONE

BASIS 1 of INFERENCE

The first sentance of page 175 of EMOTIONS and MEMORY, 1964, by David Rappaport,

"The general tendency" of the subject to forget the events of the trance after emerging from it."

BASIS 2 of INFERENCE

(1) of the same paragraph states that, "The hypnotist can successfully suggest that no posthypnotic amnesia develop".

Basis 2 Restated; Suggestion conducive to remembering is successful or generally, suggestion effecting memory has effect against a general tendancy.

CONDITIONS OF BASIS

The first note page 175, EMOTIONS and MEMORY, Note #8 states (first note below main text) that the results of memory described "in general are valid only with subjects who are able to reach the somanmbulistic stages ofhypnosis."

INFERENCE ONE

Logical inference of BASIS 1 with BASIS 2, is that; suggestion to forget will have a greater effect on memory because of the general "tendency to forget". Research confirms with observations of behavior consistent with general hyperamnesia at the top of page 176, the end of a footnote that begins on page 175 stating;

"we find hypnotized people indignantly denying they have been hypnotized."

INFERENCE ONE

If the tendancy is to forget following hypnosis that induces a trance to the level of somanmbulism and suggection effecting memory is successful then suggestion to forget will be more effective than suggestion to remember.


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[T.A.M.]

Parsman:

Welcome to the JREF Skeptics Forum on Consipracy Theories.


Gravy:

Man that is the best picture I have seen to show the magnitude of the fires...jhc thats a fire.

TAM

 

[Christophera]

It Doesn't Matter Where you Are

Is everyone in the world hypnotised ? And, if so, why aren't you ? 'Cause I'm not from the US!

"Whiskey in the morning, mmmmmm, mmmmmmmmm, good !! ," he wrote.

"His name is Trench. you will come to know him as the Angel of Death," Gill wrote at another point on his vampirefreaks.com profile.

In our local paper it was noted that the shooter had made a an internet posting on Dec 23rd "Vengence is coming".

I'm certain that all this is to subtle for you or that you do not care. If the info at,

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

Does not compel compassion for the victims of the education conspiracy, the shooting of 19 Canadians won't

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_on_re_ca/canada_college_shooting

In the Santa Barbara area the son of the producer of Amy Mcbeal kiilled four and upon exiting his car he said, "I am the angel of death."

Feb. 23 Isla Vista. David Attias intentionally kills 4 with car.

 

[Architect]

Warning: British Running Gag

Chris,

Look into the eyes, not around the eyes, look into the eyes.....you have not been hypnotised, you will take your medication......and.... 1....2.....3......<click>

 

[Architect]

Who built Maes Howe then?

What about Callanish? Even know where it is?

Explain to me the difference between Neolithic peoples of the British Isles!
On you go, now....keep digging that delusional hole....

Having trouble with this Chris? Not had time to tell me about Maes Howe? let's make it easy....tell me about Dun Carloway.....or Mousa.....who built them? Druids? Asterix? Celts? Rangers?

 

[Parsman]

TAM thanks for the welcome.

Architect, it is clear there is no point asking Christopera questions (which is odd given that CTers are all about the questions it seems to me from reading this forum) - he will just claim we have all been hypnotized to remember ALL the wrong things and only he has escaped this world wide conspiracy of mesmerism... actually even for these misguided people, he is really out there isn't he?

And you can't help but be impressed by the skills of our ancestors if you do stand at Maes Howe while the sun rises, not sure that the current evidence is that we have made much progress in the last 4,000 years though.

 

[Belz...]

No I'm not the only one that comprehends but I'm the only one that is aware of how vital it is to gain an understanding.

The only one, eh ? Well, isn't that special.

What is unconscious is better than secret. So those with secrets do not even know they have them.

The unconscious isn't like in hollywood movies, chris. It's not a separate entity that does stuff without your consent and has its own agenda. It just doesn't work that way. The only way to have two minds is to have your brain hemispheres separated, physically.

The knowledge of hypnosis is corrupted and generally people are led to believe that if a person des not want to be hypnotised they cannot be. Generally this would be true.

No, that is ALWAYS true, because the person beign hypnotised is really the one PERFORMING the hypnotism. There is no way to hypnotise a reluctant subject because he's hypnotising himself. You can do it at home if you want.

 

[Belz...]

"His name is Trench. you will come to know him as the Angel of Death," Gill wrote at another point on his vampirefreaks.com profile.

I'm well aware of what happened here, this week, chris. Thank you.

The man was crazy. He should've gotten psychological help. He didn't. People died. There are people with mental problems, chris. Deal with it. In fact, you should deal with your own.

 

[Christophera]

I'm well aware of what happened here, this week, chris. Thank you.

The man was crazy. He should've gotten psychological help. He didn't. People died. There are people with mental problems, chris. Deal with it. In fact, you should deal with your own.

I've been trying to get help for crazies (or people programmed to kill) since 1998 when the county failed to appear on subpoena duces tecum. That is what the Failure to appear on subpoena, interfereing with the appearance of a witness. was about.

Then later the senior director of the mental health department understood and approved of a treatment direct to the unconscious I researched, modified and proposed. They were looking for permission from the state of California to administer it. Their superiors stopped them. Their superiors are like you. They like things the way they are and do ont want anyone to know about the unconscious mind.

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[Parsman]

Does that letter from the county seem to anyone else like a pro-forma to fend off the weird and strange that they have to deal with from time to time? Certainly doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement of Christophera's "treatment" to me.

 

[Bell]

Christopher, serious. Please seek help. Contact that mental health department you mentioned and ask for personal help. Don't be afraid. It is for your own good. You are not well.

 

[Christophera]

Does that letter from the county seem to anyone else like a pro-forma to fend off the weird and strange that they have to deal with from time to time? Certainly doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement of Christophera's "treatment" to me.

That they seek permisson to administer the treatment is a defacto approval signed by the chief medical doctor on behalf of the director.

We had a mass murderer here that had been evaluated by the mental health department, after the director that wrote that letter resigned. 7 were killed in the post office.

Notice that belz ignores the date/numerological coincedences between the montreal shootings and the Attias killings here of 4 with a car. Will you ignore the connection too?

http://truthasaur.com/local/secretcity48.html

 

[Christophera]

No, that is ALWAYS true, because the person beign hypnotised is really the one PERFORMING the hypnotism. There is no way to hypnotise a reluctant subject because he's hypnotising himself. You can do it at home if you want.

9-11 was carried out partially by people acting unconsciously. The towers were designed to be demolished by people who thought they were doing something for one reason, when actually they were doing it for another.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

Just like the core of the towers was concrete, and I have the evidence,

http://concretecore.741.com

People can be hypnotized even if they do not want to be hypnotized. Bottom paragraph. You are wrong and I've proven it. Now will you act to protect lives with your knowledge?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3131&stc=1&d=1158357359

 

[Christophera]

Christopher, serious. Please seek help. Contact that mental health department you mentioned and ask for personal help. Don't be afraid. It is for your own good. You are not well.

Bell, serious. Please seek to protect lives. Use information of mental health that has been made available to you. Personally help. Don't be afraid. It is for your own good. Do not be a moron ushering the end of civilization.

 

[missyvanwinkle]

That's pretty esoteric stuff even for this ol' gal...

I've managed to follow some of the more elusive threads (or so I thought,) but I can't interpret this one I'm afraid.
BUT, I'll let that part go (assuming I just "don't get it," and probably won't ever be able to) but my next question was:
Where to from here? I mean, if you can ever get some of the rest of us dolts to understand -- the more important/powerful ones amongst us presumably -- then what happens?

Miss

Morning

Morning Missy,
...No I'm not the only one that comprehends but I'm the only one that is aware of how vital it is to gain an understanding.

What is unconscious is better than secret. So those with secrets do not even know they have them.

Not sure what evidence you refer to or the seeming disagreement but I'll give a conprehensive explanation to what think you are asking. ...

 

[Christophera]

I'm well aware of what happened here, this week, chris. Thank you.

The man was crazy. He should've gotten psychological help. He didn't. People died. There are people with mental problems, chris. Deal with it. In fact, you should deal with your own.

Do you have any idea WHY the crusades happened? WHY the inquisitions happened? Was the entire thing a delusion after all?

 

[Christophera]

I've managed to follow some of the more elusive threads (or so I thought,) but I can't interpret this one I'm afraid.
BUT, I'll let that part go (assuming I just "don't get it," and probably won't ever be able to) but my next question was:
Where to from here? I mean, if you can ever get some of the rest of us dolts to understand -- the more important/powerful ones amongst us presumably -- then what happens?

Miss


Yes, I understand. The confusion that denial creates really makes it hard to have a clear thread of knowledge.

I have a site that is dedicated to creating an understanding of the unconscious, hypnosis and the various actions I've taken to expose the neglect and incompetence in the field of psychology.

I appreciate your efforts to understand.

http://members.tripod.com/truthasaur/


belz,
There is a page there just for you relating to 2 minds. You are sort of right but mostly wrong, This is an excellent compilation from medicine on the right and left brain.

http://members.tripod.com/truthasaur/twominds1.html

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Do you have any idea WHY the crusades happened? WHY the inquisitions happened? Was the entire thing a delusion after all?

you have yet to explain how you are immune to the hypnotism/indoctrination/misinformation/disinformation that we apparently all suffer from

perhaps if you explain your secrets more of us can be enlightened




or figure out how to patch the holes in hypno-tron