Top Professor receives Stand Down Order from BYU

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Steven Jones has been placed on paid leave by BYU:
University officials informed Jones of the decision to place him on leave Thursday afternoon and released a statement to the newspaper Thursday night.

"BYU has repeatedly said that it does not endorse assertions made by individual faculty," the statement said. "We are, however, concerned about the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones."
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http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645199800,00.html
 
realitybites said:
Paid leave.... How is that disciplinary in any way? I've never understood.

"You're an effin' nutjob, so we're gonna pay you to not work."

The only plus side is that he won't have contact with those young, impressionable minds at BYU.
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Well, paid leave is usually shorthand for, we'll pay you not to work until we ccan find a cheep way of getting rid of you.
I'm not sure how I feel about this, obviously the university as a private business can hire and fire as they choose, but I think this is just going to make a martyr out of him. Anyone smart enough to make it to university should (not "do") have the thinking skills to see through his bull, I don't agree with limiting the ideas which undergrads are exposed to. However this doesn’t mean that the university should have to pay him to spread his lies. Like I say, I'm unsure where I stand.
 
Paid leave would be awesome!

I could get so much more of my work done if I didn't have these stupid university assignments (teaching, committees) getting in my way.

Place me on "leave" and all I will be able to do is to write papers and proposals. I only wish for the opportunity.
 
brodski said:
Well, paid leave is usually shorthand for, we'll pay you not to work until we ccan find a cheep way of getting rid of you.
I'm not sure how I feel about this, obviously the university as a private business can hire and fire as they choose, but I think this is just going to make a martyr out of him. Anyone smart enough to make it to university should (not "do") have the thinking skills to see through his bull, I don't agree with limiting the ideas which undergrads are exposed to. However this doesn’t mean that the university should have to pay him to spread his lies. Like I say, I'm unsure where I stand.
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But, brodski, what if they're not lies? :scared:
 
No tenure,huh, interesting twist. Looks like a good year for the Truth!
I think Steven is going to have a few less friends.Let the scholars pay his research bills, see how long that lasts. Score one for the Mormons!
 
"BYU remains concerned that Dr. Jones' work on this topic has not been published in appropriate scientific venues," the university statement said.
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Well, THAT'S for sure.
 
"BYU remains concerned that Dr. Jones' work on this topic has not been published in appropriate scientific venues," the university statement said.
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... Like having scientific papers published in scientific venues has anything to do with anything.... Pish-posh, I say.
 
I guess even BYU couldn't stand the flawed science in his last effort (see democraticunderground [dot] com/discuss/duboard [dot] php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=109488&mesg_id=109488 for the sorted details - the fun begins at post #8 ...:D)
 
"Continuing status," Jenkins said, "grants the expectation that faculty members will have continuing employment at the university, although it is not a guarantee. They still need to meet satisfactory performance levels for scholarship, citizenship and teaching."
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I don't know about his teaching, but I think there are at least doubts about his scholarship and citizenship, don't you?
 
Somehow, Jones is gonna spin this as though it's a badge of honor. He speaks the truth so clearly that even BYU had to fire him to help cover up the conspiracy, etc.
 
Watch jones now spin it (with Dylan and Fetzer) stating that the university was "pressured" by the guberment, to quite jones. ^_~
 
Jones claims his paper has gone through two peer-reviews. But as far as I know, it was only peer-reviewed by Griffin, well at least Griffin claims it was.

Can anyone shed any light on what that second peer-review alledgedly is?
 
Peephole said:
Jones claims his paper has gone through two peer-reviews. But as far as I know, it was only peer-reviewed by Griffin, well at least Griffin claims it was.

Can anyone shed any light on what that second peer-review alledgedly is?
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I would guess ST911, which is, of course, not a peer reviewed journal in any academic or professional sense.
 
I would ask that Jones submit his papers to the ASCE first before saying its been "peer- reviewed".
 
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