Loose Change - Part IV

[delphi_ote]

By the way, Mr. Avery and Mr. Rowe are mentioned and quoted in the latest edition of Time:

"Why The 9/11 Conspiracies Won't Go Away"

An interesting piece with an interesting construction. I wish the author had more time to flesh out their ideas toward the end. In an article titled "Why X Won't Go Away" I expect a lot more exploration of those reasons.

In almost every clip you'll see little puffs of dust spurting out from the sides of the towers. There are two competing explanations for these puffs of dust: 1) the force of the collapsing upper floors raised the air pressure in the lower ones so dramatically that it actually blew out the windows. And 2) the towers did not collapse from the impact of two Boeing 767s and the ensuing fires. They were destroyed in a planned, controlled demolition. The dust puffs you see on film are the detonations of explosives planted there before the attacks.

I wish the author would have stipulated that, though these hypotheses are competing in the public arena, there really isn't any competition between them among experts. One accurately reflects the facts while the other simply does not.

 

[T.A.M.]

I am sorry, but the person who put the video I linked to earlier, up on Google is even more strange (if you can believe it) than the guy in the video...

http://www.myspace.com/dalibor777

Apparently the guy in the video is William Cooper...ring any bells for anyone?

TAM

 

[StoneWT]

T.A.M.,

Cooper was interesting. The video represents what he believed in the late 80's and very early 90's. By 1992, he believed that the documentation he claims to have seen in the Navy concerning aliens was most likely planted disinformation.

 

[negativ]

Apparently the guy in the video is William Cooper...ring any bells for anyone?

Actually, yes. I'll have to jog my memory a bit, but "Wild Bill" Cooper was a UFO nut who was even considered nutty by a lot of UFO nuts.

Hmm, after some Googling, I found this:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2843/is_2_26/ai_83585946

I didn't know that!

 

[T.A.M.]

Yes, apparently Mr. Cooper was killed in a shoot out with police just after 9/11 2001, the exact date was November 5th, 2001 I believe. I am amazed more of the nutters havent picked up on the "connection"...lol

TAM

 

[CptColumbo]

Has anyone read the New Yorker article on Al-Quida. It talks about the displeasure the other leaders are upset with OBL, because of all the trouble he caused. They wanted to wait longer, but he was impatient.

My local paper also had an article about CTs today, it wasn't very good (substance wise). However, it shows another bit of infighting in the CT Community. Who is the leader of the movement and who has done more for it? Everyone seems to claim that title. I spent hours on their site at Startribune.com, but couldn't find the article to link to it.

 

[CptColumbo]

Mind satisfying my curiosity? What were you in for?

Haven't you been reading, he had the cure for cancer.

 

[Gravy]

I'm just staggered by this site, called Internet Detectives. It's right up there with 9-11 Myths, Gravy's Guide, and Debunking 9-11. Well-written, solid analysis, links to data... terrific job. I've invited the site creator to join us over here.

Beautiful site! Thorough, well-written, well-sourced, easy to read. I quit!
How'd you find it, Brainster?

 

[Dog Town]

Beautiful site! Thorough, well-written, well-sourced, easy to read. I quit!

" You never forget your first" ! You gave a great first punch !
Yours still good. This is pretty swanky though!

 

[Gravy]

I just noticed a quote at the top of the Louder Than Words website from Hunter S. Thompson:

And failing that, it's worth doing over.

Thank you for pointing my screen capture program to another gem. And notice at the bottom of the page there's a link that says "Find an adult friend now (don't click if you're not an adult)"

Ya can't make this stuff up.

 

[MarkyX]

*cough*

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6596630292015140276&hl=en-CA

PIMP NOW.

 

[Brainster]

Beautiful site! Thorough, well-written, well-sourced, easy to read. I quit!
How'd you find it, Brainster?

The guy (Zach) sent me an email. It was almost apologetic in tone; "I know everybody's doing this, but here's my site."

You want to feel really sick? He's 17 years old.

 

[Gravy]

*cough*

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6596630292015140276&hl=en-CA

PIMP NOW.

I love the "four pounds of thermite can't melt a computer, but it can bring down two 110-story towers" segment. Rock on, MarkyX!

 

[MarkyX]

I love the "four pounds of thermite can't melt a computer, but it can bring down two 110-story towers" segment. Rock on, MarkyX!

Don't you mean Mark Roberts?

 

[Abbyas]

Beautiful site! Thorough, well-written, well-sourced, easy to read. I quit!

No, no!

Don't you mean Mark Roberts?

Yeah, sheesh, you could have just given him a compliment in the mirror versus wasting ones and zeros.

 

[Gravy]

The guy (Zach) sent me an email. It was almost apologetic in tone; "I know everybody's doing this, but here's my site."

You want to feel really sick? He's 17 years old.

I say we pass the torch to this Young Turk and go have a margarita. Remember the energy we had when we were 17? He can run your site, finish my Guide, write some letters to the editor, play a few video games and text message a few hundred times, all between now and midnight, and all on a diet of peanut M&Ms and Mountain Dew. Go, Zach, Go!

 

[Gravy]

Yeah, sheesh, you could have just given him a compliment in the mirror versus wasting ones and zeros.

I did that anyway. I can't be sure that I don't have multiple-personality disorder, so I always compliment myself when someone who may be me does a good job.

 

[Graham2001]

The guy (Zach) sent me an email. It was almost apologetic in tone; "I know everybody's doing this, but here's my site."

You want to feel really sick? He's 17 years old.

Which in my eyes makes it even more impresive. After all the creators of Loose Change are around 22, just goes to show, age isn't everything.

 

[WildCat]

I'm just staggered by this site, called Internet Detectives. It's right up there with 9-11 Myths, Gravy's Guide, and Debunking 9-11. Well-written, solid analysis, links to data... terrific job. I've invited the site creator to join us over here.

Wow, and by a 17 year old... how dare he show up his elders like that! Where's the respect?

What a great site!

 

[delphi_ote]

I just noticed a quote at the top of the Louder Than Words website from Hunter S. Thompson:

And failing that, it's worth doing over.

As someone who has read and watched Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas far too many times, I feel it's my duty to put that quote in context:

Acosta: As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And then you'll need the cocaine. Acapulco shirts, a tape recorder for special music. Get the hell out of L.A. for at least 48 hours... This is going to blow my whole weekend because naturally I'm going to have to go with you. And we're going to need to arm ourselves - to the teeth.

Duke: Well, why not. Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

Maybe this is not the best source of inspiration for filming a journalistic documentary...