Remote Healing Session

[ObscureReferenceMan]

Oh no! Did I miss the session?

 

[Apathia]

Ahweh,

I sat with you. I wasn't expecting anything, because I didn't make any sort of intent. It was just another opportunity to be still and receptive.

Don't look upon requests for objective research on T.T. and Reiki as hostile to what you are doing. Some solid research needs to be done in the area of how touch can engage the parasympathetic nervous system and encourage the release of endorphins that relieve stress and pain and indirectly aid the body's recovery process.

 

[Ahweh]

Prove what, exactly? Some sort of healing? Medicines are tested every day, as we speak. It is time-consuming and expensive, but very simple in principle. If you continue posting here a while, you will find that people use words like "placebo-controlled double-blind trials". I recommend you make yourself familiar with these concepts as soon as possible. It is the only way to test if any kind of healing actually works, and how well it works. At least that I know of.

Well I'll give you an example. If someone told you that bunji jumping was fun you would have to do it before you knew for sure it was fun. There by proving to yourself that it was fun or not.

No amount of documation can prove anything to you, You have to prove things to yourself by experiencing whatever it is that you want proven so you know if it is real or not.

 

[Ahweh]

Ahweh,

I sat with you. I wasn't expecting anything, because I didn't make any sort of intent. It was just another opportunity to be still and receptive.

Don't look upon requests for objective research on T.T. and Reiki as hostile to what you are doing. Some solid research needs to be done in the area of how touch can engage the parasympathetic nervous system and encourage the release of endorphins that relieve stress and pain and indirectly aid the body's recovery process.

I read a lot of reasearch on Reiki and Theriputic touch as well as polarity threapy and others.
My wife and I are both Reiki Masters and have grown beyond.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Why don't you just send in an application to the JREF so you can run a proper test? It could mean an extra million for you.

 

[Blue Mountain]

I will start by saying I am also a Skeptic and have been for a very long time so the following statment should resonate with some...

I read a lot of reasearch on Reiki and Theriputic touch as well as polarity threapy and others.
My wife and I are both Reiki Masters and have grown beyond.

From what I've seen written here about Reiki, it's a contradiction in terms to be both a skeptic and a Reiki Master.

Did you go on the Reiki course but doubt that it works?

 

[Ahweh]

From what I've seen written here about Reiki, it's a contradiction in terms to be both a skeptic and a Reiki Master.

Did you go on the Reiki course but doubt that it works?

I was already doing Energy Healing before I did anything with Reiki.
I proved Energy healing to myself when My uncle got hurt in a farming accident. He was in intensive care and hooked up to all kinds of monitors. I walked up and looked at the monitors they were going nuts he was in a lot of pain so I put my hands on him and the monitors instantly quieted down and he fell asleep. When I removed my hands the monitors went nuts again and my uncle woke up. I went through this process a couple of times to be sure it was not some fluke happening. My aunt came in so I stoped helping him she at the time didn't understand what energy healing was. I used the science behind the medical monitors to verify this ability to myself because I know no one can prove anything to me I have to prove it to myself.

 

[Ahweh]

Why don't you just send in an application to the JREF so you can run a proper test? It could mean an extra million for you.

I will seriously look into that because this site is new to me I have to read up on the guidlines of the test and who knows we might get it done.

 

[Ducky]

What exactly does all of this heal?

 

[Ahweh]

What exactly does all of this heal?

This is from the Nipping ‘energy healing’ in the bud thread.

We provide them with extra energy on multiple levels and there healing system does the rest. Yes that is possible but not probable. My wife fell and broke her leg the fibula right in the middle and the bones were ofset almost the full bone width. Because the fibula is a non weight bearing bone they did not set it. They just cast it after the xray and sent her home. Four weeks later we went back to the doctor to replace the cast because her leg had shrunk so much in muscle mass. After they cut the cast of and xrayed her leg to see how her leg was healing he was suprised that her leg had set itself and healed perfectly. We could not even tell that it had been broken by the new xray. The standard time for broken bones that have been set right is six to eight weeks not four.

Lets use my wife again she used to have migrains which were are some times caused by hormone imbalances in the brain. After the first session they went away and she has yet to have another migrain but that was a side benefit of us working towards her body getting rid of her carple tunnel. That was in 1998 before we got married.

 

[Ririon]

Well I'll give you an example. If someone told you that bunji jumping was fun you would have to do it before you knew for sure it was fun. There by proving to yourself that it was fun or not.

No amount of documation can prove anything to you, You have to prove things to yourself by experiencing whatever it is that you want proven so you know if it is real or not.

So, you are claiming that sitting with your arms and legs uncrossed is FUN? Sure, if there is something interesting on TV...

When it comes to healing. Some very simple and humble research will "prove" to me that medicine works. I do not have to take a medicine to prove to myself that it works. I will even accept that it works even if I have the exact medical problem that it is supposed to treat and it doesn't help me at all. How is that for an open mind? Yet, I still do not accept that your healing sessions work. Why not? It is in principle easy to demonstrate that they do work, and it has not been done.

Now, some advice if you are interested in a million dollars: No test that endangers participants will be done, so testing medical claims can be difficult. You hint at that the people being healed can feel when they are "contacted" by you. This is a simple form of telepathy. If I can feel when you focus on me and when you don't from a distance and with no other clues, that is enough to give you one million dollars, and it does not put me in any danger. (Like stopping regular medical treatment for an actual illness would.)

This is also much easier to test than any vague long-term healing. You could do this test in one day with a few volunteers that are very receptive, and can reliably feel your influence.

And bungee? I'll take your word for it... That being fun does not break the laws of physics, and I am really not tempted to try.

 

[Ririon]

This is from the Nipping ‘energy healing’ in the bud thread.
<anecdotes snipped>

Sorry, anecdotes. Inadmissable.

 

[politas]

Sorry, anecdotes. Inadmissable.

Not inadmissable. Simply of very low value. Indicative of directions for serious investigation to take, if such investigation is considered worthwhile.

Potential ideas for development of a protocol.

 

[Starrman]

I was already doing Energy Healing before I did anything with Reiki.
I proved Energy healing to myself when My uncle got hurt in a farming accident. He was in intensive care and hooked up to all kinds of monitors. I walked up and looked at the monitors they were going nuts he was in a lot of pain so I put my hands on him and the monitors instantly quieted down and he fell asleep. When I removed my hands the monitors went nuts again and my uncle woke up. I went through this process a couple of times to be sure it was not some fluke happening. My aunt came in so I stoped helping him she at the time didn't understand what energy healing was. I used the science behind the medical monitors to verify this ability to myself because I know no one can prove anything to me I have to prove it to myself.

So you were measurably healing your uncle, who is in intensive care, and you stopped helping him because your aunt doesn't understand energy healing? What a cruel bastage you are.

I don't see how the event you described could have happened in any real intensive care unit, as I remember them as being rather quiet, unless something major was changing with a patient. When that happened, I nurses and doctors would scramble to find out what is going on.

If you caused any kind of change that would have affected a monitor, I would suspect that a nurse or doctor would be the next thing you would see, not your aunt.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I will start by saying I am also a Skeptic and have been for a very long time so the following statment should resonate with some.

No One Can Prove Anything To Anyone About Anything Anytime You Yes You Have To Prove It To Yourself.
...

I strongly disagree.

Michael Shermer on "The Scientific Method"*

Elements of the scientific method ( hypothetico-deductive):

Induction -- Forming a hypothesis by drawing general conclusions from existing data.

Deduction -- Making specific predictions based on the hypothesis.

Observation -- Gathering data, driven by hypothesis that tell us what to look for in nature.

Verification -- Testing the predictions against further observations to confirm or falsify the initial hypothesis.

Through the scientific method, we may form the following generalizations:

Hypothesis -- A testable statement accounting for a set of observations.

Theory -- A well-supported and well-tested hypothesis or set of hypotheses.

Fact -- A conclusion confirmed to such an extent that it would be reasonable to offer provisional agreement.

Through the scientific method, we aim for objectivity: basing conclusions on external validation. And we avoid mysticism: basing conclusions on personal insights that elude external validation.

Science leads us toward rationalism: basing conclusions on logic and evidence. And science helps us avoid dogmatism: basing conclusions on authority rather than logic and evidence.

It is important to recognize the fallibility of science and the scientific method. But within this fallibility lies its greatest strength: self-correction.

A scientific law is a description of a regularly repeating action that is open to rejection or confirmation.

Scientific progress is the cummulative growth of a system of knowledge over time, in which useful features are retained, and nonuseful features are abandoned, based on the rejection or confirmation of testable knowledge.

Pseudoscience: claims presented so that they appear scientific even though they lack supporting evidence and plausibility.


Modern skepticism is embodied in the scientific method, which involves gathering data to test natural explanations for natural phenomenon. A claim becomes factual when it is confirmed to such an extent that it would be reasonable to offer temporary agreement. But all facts in science are provisional and subject to challenge, and therefore skepticism is a method leading to provisional conclusions.

A skeptic is one who questions the validity of a particular claim by calling for evidence to prove or disprove it.

source: http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/jarrett/talks/LiU/sci_method_2.html

 

[Ossai]

Ahweh

I proved Energy healing to myself when My uncle got hurt in a farming accident. He was in intensive care and hooked up to all kinds of monitors. I walked up and looked at the monitors they were going nuts he was in a lot of pain so I put my hands on him and the monitors instantly quieted down and he fell asleep. When I removed my hands the monitors went nuts again and my uncle woke up.

Anecdotal and completely meaningless.
You have not been to a hospital often have you? Depending on the condition of the patient there can be a very large number of monitors & other medial equipment hooked up to a patient.
If I beeped at you twice while you were attempting to perform, would that prove to you that it didn’t work? Why not?

Ossai

 

[Ririon]

Not inadmissable. Simply of very low value. Indicative of directions for serious investigation to take, if such investigation is considered worthwhile.

Potential ideas for development of a protocol.

Maybe I was slightly harsh... -ish...

 

[politas]

I will seriously look into that because this site is new to me I have to read up on the guidlines of the test and who knows we might get it done.

Well, just think of a way to test your abilities that doesn't rely on a patient "feeling better". Such tests seem to be based around diagnosis of conditions or detection of a living body. Anything that can give a non-subjective result.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Ahweh, does your healing help or affect people with type I diabetes?

Also, I notice the handle you use is very similar to 'Yaweh', which is an anglicanization of the Hebrew letters that are transilterated as 'YWHH' from the Bilble. Is there a connection?

 

[Bob Klase]

I will start by saying I am also a Skeptic and have been for a very long time so the following statment should resonate with some.

No One Can Prove Anything To Anyone About Anything Anytime You Yes You Have To Prove It To Yourself. .

But you don't have to prove anything. Just show some credible evidence.