How Hezbollah Controls The News

zenith-nadir said:
You have to smuggle pictures of Hezbollah "in action" out of Lebanon.
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Well yes. Have you any idea how hard it is to get photos of israels nuclear program (exculding satilite pics)?
 
geni said:
Well yes. Have you any idea how hard it is to get photos of israels nuclear program (exculding satilite pics)?
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Yes, Hezbollah control the news.
Hamas started it, because blockading a nation, taking its taxes, killing and kidnapping people in Gaza is not a provocation.


Hezbollah kills 8 soldiers and captures 2, kills no civilians -- but it's terrorism.

Israel kills civilians as it storms a hospital -- brave commando raid.

hezbollah controls the media
 
From Webfusion's Kana thread:

webfusion said:
C'mon T-F, we're havin' some good fun here, why go and spoil it for us?

The Qana debacle, whatever happened, is past, it's off the radar already.
Do you really think most people care if it was an IAF attack, or a set-up by Hezbollywood? We're numb to it all. It's all part of the war and none of it will make a bit of difference in the long run. Does it change the overall scheme of things?
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And remember!
Hezbollah controls the media!
 
WildCat said:
Are there journalists embedded w/ Hezbollah on the front lines? Reporting how they're firing missiles from residential neighborhoods? I don't even see how the 2 are remotely comparable. Journalists in the last Gulf War had unprecedented access, live video from the front lines. And apart from giving exact troop locations, could pretty much report anything they wanted.
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You're not serious, are you?

We were allowed to see carefully orchestrated "surgical air strikes", but not the tanks who were blown to smithereens, or the effects of the bombs dropped on Bagdad. The US Military controls the media to a far higher degree than the Hezbollah can ever dream of.

Interview with Rick Davis, NBC Television News, 1991
 
CFLarsen said:
We were allowed to see carefully orchestrated "surgical air strikes", but not the tanks who were blown to smithereens, or the effects of the bombs dropped on Bagdad. The US Military controls the media to a far higher degree than the Hezbollah can ever dream of.
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What media sources are you using?

All I see is bad press for the USA.

Certainly any embedded journalists are going to be restricted in what they can show, but there have always been plenty of journalists who weren't embedded, and were all too keen to get footage that make the USA look terrible.

In contrast no one goes anywhere in South Lebanon unless Hizbollah supervises it. Let me reiterate. NO ONE.

-Andrew
 
gumboot said:
In contrast no one goes anywhere in South Lebanon unless Hizbollah supervises it. Let me reiterate. NO ONE.

-Andrew
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except CNN...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/21/perry.tyre/index.html

Or maybe they forgot to mention the Hezbollah supervision they had.

or this..
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/28/mideast.main/index.html

Near Naqoura, also in southern Lebanon, two civilians and a journalist were slightly wounded when their convoy was struck, according to a BBC cameraman who was traveling with the convoy. It was unclear whether Israeli or Hezbollah fire hit the convoy, which had been organized to help civilians escape the fighting.

If they were not sure who fired on them why didn't they ask thier Hezbollah supervisors?


or this..
http://199.249.170.220/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002913912

As for doing the job, Shadid says few official channels for information are available. "The official stuff is from the Red Cross or the hospital," he says. "The Lebanese government is almost shutdown and you don't get anything from Hezbollah. They keep a watch on you, you know they are around." Still, Shadid says Hezbollah leaders or fighters do not disrupt reporting. "They have not interfered with my work," he says.

is this pulitzer prizewinning journalist lying to protect his hezbollah supervisors?


Andrew, there is sometimes a downside in claiming absolutes in uppercase.
 
Cleon said:
On the matter of the topic, "the news" is rather broad. Hizballah does not control AlJazeera, CNN, or Fox News. Saying that "Hizballah controls the News" is overreaching. Yes, Hizballah controls AlManar. Nothing new there. And sure, Hizballah runs tours--hey, everyone does that, yes, including Israel. Ditto for spin.

But "Hizballah controls the news" is just as silly as the claim "the Jews control the media." They could have as slick a media operation as they come, they could spin left and right, but saying they "control the news" is just outlandish.

I suppose claiming they "control the news" is a nice, neat way of dismissing Lebanese casualities as "enemy propaganda" or some such. On a factual basis, however, the claim is spurious at best.
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I agree 100%, Cleon. I always view the media as a sort of candy store. Not everyone who walks into a candy store wants the same items. The media tries to appeal to everyone with different tastes. The only difference is that when the candy store is in the middle-east, the patrons are willing to kill each other. It's the peanut-clusters against the toffee treats and neither is willing to change. ;)
 
gumboot said:
What media sources are you using?

All I see is bad press for the USA.

Certainly any embedded journalists are going to be restricted in what they can show, but there have always been plenty of journalists who weren't embedded, and were all too keen to get footage that make the USA look terrible.

In contrast no one goes anywhere in South Lebanon unless Hizbollah supervises it. Let me reiterate. NO ONE.

-Andrew
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Were there places in Kuwait where the press couldn't go?
 
Embedded reporters and the notion of guided tours seem completely different to me. Embedded reporters go wherever the soldiers they're embedded with go and they see whatever the soldiers see as the soldiers do what they do. That's totally different then bringing the media into an area and showing them some specific things of your choosing and then taking them away from the area.
 
T-F, Your response in Post #28 was well-researched and provided a poignant reminder that the war is reaching our living-rooms without pictures of the Hezbollah in action.

I have been watching this on various networks for a few weeks now, and the only views of Hezbollah are 'archive' footage of some training exercises, maybe taken ten years ago.

Yes, Lebanon is getting torn up.
And yes, images and reports of kids hurt makes for a good day's work on CNN, but on one side, there are plenty of videos and stills of the IDF (tanks, jets, choppers, bulldozers, you name it). Why is there such a paucity of pictures of Hezbollah?
(with the notable exception of the smuggled pics of that rocket crew in the middle of suburbia).
 
All I can say is that the Jewish cabal has really dropped the ball. Hezbollah is the new Jew.

Does Mel Gibson know this?
 
shecky said:
All I can say is that the Jewish cabal has really dropped the ball. Hezbollah is the new Jew.

Does Mel Gibson know this?
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I just got a mental image of a drunken Mel Gibson getting into it with the cops: "#$%^ing Hizballahs are running everything...Are YOU a Hizballah?" :D
 
webfusion said:
Why is there such a paucity of pictures of Hezbollah?
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*shrugs* Hezbollah is a lightly armed militia, and have historical experience with irregular warfare against an occupation force. They must certainly be aware that it's always been a possibility that Israel would re-occupy at least part of their operational base, forcing them back underground. Given that, they'd want to protect the identity of their fighters.
 
webfusion said:
Yes, Lebanon is getting torn up.
And yes, images and reports of kids hurt makes for a good day's work on CNN, but on one side, there are plenty of videos and stills of the IDF (tanks, jets, choppers, bulldozers, you name it). Why is there such a paucity of pictures of Hezbollah?
(with the notable exception of the smuggled pics of that rocket crew in the middle of suburbia).
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A nit-pik...I do not see rockets or launchers in the images on that page. I see a man with a small machinegun in one photo, and two photos containing one anti-aircraft gun with a single building in the background. Could be a neighborhood, then again, it may not be.

I am not doubting that Israel is justly firing on these locations, I am only stating that, to me, these particular photos don't prove what the story claims they do.
 
Yesterday on the Today Show (NBC) they had a reporter doing a live feed w/ Tyre in the background. He said that moments before there were rockets fired by Hezboillah "from the area behind me" but his Hezbollah minders wouildn't let him show the tape or the location where they were fired from. But the area behind him was what looked like downtown Tyre, full of high-rises, clearly a civilian area. And an admission that Hezbollah determined what could be aired. The softball throwing Today entertainers didn't press him on the issue, of course.
 
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