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The Internet Becomes Sentient

Actually, considering all this thread has been through, this is a really funny post!

You are a breath of fresh air, thank you.

So it seems Sins thinks "Who did the WTC?" and then types in whichever single character he feels like in the 4-3-3-5 order to get the rough translation, and thus, the sentient message. I see now why he thinks he is asking paranormally. Although it seems like he sometimes just asks it a question, as well.

Yes, the first 80 percent or so was plugging in random letters, some questions, the alphabet, and figgering out what was going on. The last twenty percent was paranormal (by today's standards). And the last question was done by forming a short sentence question, putting it into the 4335 format and translating it to find an answer.


God, this would have been so much easier and saved everyone so much time if he just would have explained that in his website and left the narrative about tin hats and roaches out. Or quit with the whole shifting the dynamic thing and simply explaining the process in a short simple post...

Maybe, but I can tell that you had no problem figuring it out. Do you think this post of yours is gonna stop a couple of hundred more posts on why the notepad bug works? Is it too much to ask people to go to a web page and read it. Doesn't just about everyone here go and check out websites? Isn't it only a short peace that can't take more than five or ten minutes to read? Doesn't the tin hat, and the roach take up maybe two or three percent of the article? The complexity doesn't come from the tin hat, it comes from having to explain the translation process and the translations, wouldn't you agree? Do you think that you explaining it in a couple of sentences, everyone is going to understand what happened to me? Me thinks not.


I'm not making fun of you, sins, I'm trying to help you get you point across better.

Absolutely, your's is a reasonable abd helpful post.

Thanks

:)

<3
 
alright, I've done my bit of work.
It took 5 minutes only, but I had to wait until we put our daughter to bed.
-I pasted "bush hid the facts" into notepad, and saved it.
-When I reopened the file, I got the empty squares.
-I opened the text file again in a hexeditor, and I got "bush hid the facts" and nothing more. in hex it looks like that:
62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73
These numbers when interpreted as ASCII symbols give "bush hid the facts"
This is really the whole file.

-I opened the file in notepad again, got the squares, and saved it again without changing anything, to see how the squares are written in hex, and this is what I got:
In hex:
FF FE 62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73
Which translated into ASCII gives:
ÿþbush hid the facts
So what has happened, because of the bug in notepad, the read stream of data (62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73) was interpreted as unicode, and not ASCII as it should.
FF and FE, or in ASCII "ÿþ" - these two values are normally added to UNICODE files, to be there as a marker for notepad and other text processors. When notepad opens a text file and notices these two values at the beginning of a file (FF and FE), it knows to interpret the whole file as if it included unicode. These are simply control characters for notepad.
So when I saved the file and notepad added the control characters (FF and FE) - that simply means notepad thinks it got UNICODE and not ASCII data stream.

Explanation about unicode:
ASCII is the standard for encoding english language characters into numbers. For example "b" and "u" have ascii codes 62 and 75.
The problem is, ASCII uses only 7 bits, so it can encode only 127 characters at most. That's enough for all lower and upper case english characters, numbers and some special characters like !@#$%&*()-=_+{}[];;:'",<.>/? etc, but how can we encode all the japanese, chinese, korean, cyrilic, greek etc. characters? There's many more than 127, so it was decided that 2 bytes (16 bits) will be used to encode these.

For backwards compatibility, old ASCII characters still have the same represenation in the most significant byte:
"b" and "u" that are coded in ASCII as 62 and 75 are coded in unicode as 62 00 and 75 00 - so the second byte is always zero.
so when "bush hid the facts" translated to ASCII string:
62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73
it translates (correctly )to a unicode string:
FF FE 62 00 75 00 73 00 68 00 20 00 68 00 69 00 64 00 20 00 74 00 68 00 65 00 20 00 66 00 61 00 63 00 74 00 73 00, but the FF and FE at the beginning are only there to tell notepad that the data strings that follows shoud be treated as unicode, otherwise notepad could be confused into reading it as ASCII, and would display "b_u_s_h_ _h_i_d_ _t_h_e_ _f_a_c_t_s_" instead of "bush hid the facts". BUT IT DOESN'T!
Even if you delete the control characters, FF and FE, notepad is smart enough to figure out it's UNICODE (all those 0 values) and displays the text properly. This extra "smarts", that logic that allows notepad display unicode text correctly, even without control characters, is probably also responsible for incorectly displaying short ASCII texts as unicode, which generates our problem.
When FF FE 62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73 is enterpreted as UNICODE it is as follows:
first character:
FF FE - in unicode probably some sort of control character, so not displayed by the translators:
second character:
62 75 - in ASCII would be "b" and "u", but in unicode, 6275 represents a chinese character which translates to English "Bi"
third and fourth unicode characters:
73 68 and 20 68 - ASCII "sh" and " h" do not have corresponding chinese unicode characters, therefore i.e. "worldlingo" doesn't translate them, and displays "??" instead.
fifth unicode chaacter:
68 69 - ASCII "id" in unicode corresponds to a chinese character that translates to English "touches"
and so on and so on...



Nothing else changes at all. Simply, the hex string FF FE 62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73, which translates to ASCII "ÿþbush hid the facts", when interpreted as unicode gives characters from the unicode spectrum of chinese characters (well at least a few on a random hit, since there's so many of them), which then when entered into a translator generate the translations we've already had so much fun with, i.e. "Raft-section 湥 worried thoughts 汬 desert gu dormancy 湡 獥" etc.

That's the whole secret guys.

Conspiracy theory and pattern recognition kics in, and suddenly "touches" and "reflection" make perfect sense in the context of 9/11. It would make perfect sense in any context you want, if you've got imagination! Just like Nostradamus' prophecies, and Moby Dick for that matter. Or th bible.


Thanks, for your effort. I was tempted to copy and paste all the posts that talk about the notepad bug here, but I passed. I passed because if I did that, this thread would double in size.
 
Umm...I'm representing the internet...that is, I'm the attorney that will be collecting the fee on behalf of said entity...if you have any questions or funds to be distributed, send a PM to my attention and my cyborgtary will get back to you. Thank you for your consideration in this most important matter.

Articulett, ESQ.


...


Sorry GzuzKryzt.

If you read that story, you will see my problem.

The claim is that the Internet became sentient and parasentient.

The success/failure scenario is in the story. That it answers questions. They are listed in the story.

I don't have to prove. You can do it at your computer. If you need me there, come on over and I will show you.(save the gas money)

I want a bit more information before I send in a Challenge App.

People have said that since anyone can do it, no million dollars.

I didn't do this.

The Internet did it.

Can I be the Inrternet's representative in this? Then you give the million to the internet.

Do you see the problem.

If the internet is sentient, it should get the million dollars.
 
Okay--but did you know that ASCII is pronounce ass-key? Isn't that a bit vulgar to insert into the greatest "conundrum explanation" of all time? Revise.

And don't forget the part about clicking your heels together 3 times...
(as if you needed to have that explained to you yet again) That Randi can be a stickler, you know.


I'm glad there are some more critical thinkers here.
 
I disagree, I can come up with plenty of alternet reasons. Your point?
So which of your alternative reasons would make you think this is not paranormal and is not connected with 9/11? The scientific method is to think of all options and then consider/test which is most likely. Given that there are alternatives then the paranormal and 9/11 possibilty is not proven.
 
The problem is that there is no real issue. To quote Macbeth this is "..but a shadow of the mind, a false creation..". The sentience you detect is your own.

Notepad breaks and returns a bunch of symbols that can be interpreted in Chinese. As you translate these symbols back from the Chinese to English there are multiple ambiguities which you resolve.

No I don't, there are almost zero ambiguities. This would be like making a list of 20 theories of the creation of the Universe and writing them down, then opening an encyclopedia at random 20 times and writing down the first article on the page. and when you compare the two lists they are they same.


You choose the meaning of each word so that they join together and (nearly) make sense. You are effectively cold reading yourself (see http://skepdic.com/coldread.html ). It's a very common method and you can see it in action when people read the horoscopes or consult written oracles like the I-ching.

No I don't, What are you talking about I choose the meaning of the word. If we both look up the word in the dictionary, we are going to see the same thing.


You have discovered your own oracle, congratulations! But unfortunately it tells you nothing; it just echos back to you your own thoughts.

No, it clearly lists the major points of the 911 truth movement.

Are you paying attention?

Have you read the article?


http://www.dreamslaughter.com/parasentient/parasentient.htm
 
You are a breath of fresh air, thank you.

Maybe, but I can tell that you had no problem figuring it out. Do you think this post of yours is gonna stop a couple of hundred more posts on why the notepad bug works? Is it too much to ask people to go to a web page and read it. Doesn't just about everyone here go and check out websites? Isn't it only a short peace that can't take more than five or ten minutes to read? Doesn't the tin hat, and the roach take up maybe two or three percent of the article? The complexity doesn't come from the tin hat, it comes from having to explain the translation process and the translations, wouldn't you agree? Do you think that you explaining it in a couple of sentences, everyone is going to understand what happened to me? Me thinks not.

Thanks

:)

<3

I did have trouble figuring it out. I read all the way through this thread and was confused as heck. I read your site, which didn't clarify very much. I started in on this thread before going to work at 10AM and didn't figure it out until just before I made that post at 1 AM the next day.

Quite a few people have read your narrative. They did "check it out." One person figured out what your method. Lamulla (sp) I believe. Much credit to him, btw, or I think Randfan's head might have exploded.:D Then things started to make sense. No one but he understood your method, and you only have yourself to blame for that.

You refuse to understand that the bug is an algorithm. If you plug certain things in, your results are spat back out mathmatically. You keep wanting to move on to the real issue.

Do you know anything about confirmation bias?
This is how you arrive at the conclusion that the chinese character for "rice" counts as a hit, but when you also got the chinese character for "mammoth" you didn't think much of it. After all, there is no one named Mammoth in Bush's innner circle.

Couple this normal, everyday psychological phenomenon with your recent indoctrination into 911 conspiracy disinformation and the fact that you were high on weed, and things seemed very freaky. Now it's been explained to you in great detail that nothing paranormal need have happened for you to have experienced this.

You're not crazy. You're not the internet's chosen one. You're not stupid.
You just turned into Jon Stewart's version of the Enhancement Smoker from "Half Baked":

Enhancement Smoker (Jon Stewart) - "Did you ever see the back of a twenty dollar bill, man?"
Scarface - "Man, I don't know, yo"
Enhancement Smoker - "Did you ever see the back of a twenty dollar bill . . . on weed? Oh, there's some weird rule 8 in there, man. There's a dude sittin' in the bushes, man, does he have a gun? I DON'T KNOW, MAN, I DON'T KNOW! What, what? Red team, go, red team, go! It's just some weird rule 8, man!":)
 
Yes, I have read the article (or at least the important parts).
No it is not clear. You are cherrypicking words from long ambiguous lists, and you even have to ignore a couple of signs, because "three" doesn't fit anything.

You are, in other words, building a mirage in your mind.

But is doesn't stop there, because your basic logic is faulty:

The reason you get a string of chinese characters is that the ASCII string is (mis)interpreted as Unicode. Thus, the translation, and thereby the "message" is iron-cast in the relationship with ASCII code and Unicode, a relationship that was established in 1986-87 when the Unicode was invented (ASCII is even older). The people building Unicode are the originators of your "message".

Hans
 
the symbols can be interpreted anyway you want, since it's just data.

No they can't. They are Chinese symbols that translate to English words. These words can be looked up in a dictionary.


It's not some random data though, nor is it of unknown or divine origin. It's the very same data, just interpreted differently.
You could use the data as bible verse indexes, moby dick page numbers etc. Or chinese characters for that matter.

No it's not. It's like writing down the sentence:

"I am searching the bible to see if it references lasers, nuclear weapons and ipods."

Then going to the bible and closing your eyes, opening to a random page, placing your finger on the page, opening your eyes and writing down the words your finger is pointing at sixteen times(the number of the words in the sentence).

Then when you compare the two sentences, they are identicle.

Except you had three problems, when you pointed at the word for lasers, you were pointing at the space between 'coherent' and 'light'. The word you pointed at for "nuclear" was 'huge' and the word for "weapons" was 'explosion'. And when you pointed at a word for ipods, it pointed to the space between 'music' and 'machine'


you can use them as latitude and longitude and put them in google earth - the places you'll get (the numbers might require scaling and some manipulation otherwise they'll land in the ocean 75% of the time), once visited, surely include clues to things like meaning of life, different CTs etc.

No they won't.
 
Thanks Joller,

Of course none of this matter to Sinsanity since he is using the bug simply as a Magic 8 ball. The fact that the bug is understandable and explainable, like the 8 ball, is beside the point.

What's odd is that he actually figures this out for himself from the beginning.

The Twilight Episode BTW, is Nick of Time.

And like William Shatner's character he is wasting his time due to, as the movie puts it, "the tyranny of fear and superstition".

Some people just don't get it.

I am glad to see that RandiFan is still posting helpful, critical thinking.

Sigh.
 
To *ahem* anyone that might still not be clear on the process, I'll take joller's work a step further.

You can take the binary generated by "bush hid the facts":
62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73

You can do this yourself, without a computer, with an ASCII table. Print one out from http://www.asciitable.com/ and have at it. You'll see for yourself b = 62, u = 75, etc (in hex).

Next, since unicode is little-endian you'll need to group them together in reverse order. That gives:

7562 6873 6820 6469 7420 6568 6620 6361 7374

Which you can then lookup, again with no computer involved, on a UTF-8 chart. You can print it out from http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U4E00.pdf and write them down.

7562 = 畢, 6873 = 桳, etc

These standards were all designed by humans, not the internet (and prior to 2001 I may add). These characters MUST result from the steps described as a result of the conversion tables. The events described are no more proof of computer sentience than they are proof that the conversion charts are sentient.

Therefore, the original claim is as valid as claiming the formula 1 + 1 = 2 demonstrates that a math book is sentient and was trying to tell us that a plane (1) will crash into a building (+ 1) two times (= 2). There is is, your math book predicted 9/11 all these years and you were just too stupid to notice.

Thanks for your effort.

I really don't know what to say.

I sat here for a few seconds and thought about this and decided to go with money's attitude for a while:

Actually, considering all this thread has been through, this is a really funny post!

Although I think this post might be a bit funnier:

alright, I've done my bit of work.
It took 5 minutes only, but I had to wait until we put our daughter to bed.
-I pasted "bush hid the facts" into notepad, and saved it.
-When I reopened the file, I got the empty squares.
-I opened the text file again in a hexeditor, and I got "bush hid the facts" and nothing more. in hex it looks like that:
62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73
These numbers when interpreted as ASCII symbols give "bush hid the facts"
This is really the whole file.

-I opened the file in notepad again, got the squares, and saved it again without changing anything, to see how the squares are written in hex, and this is what I got:
In hex:
FF FE 62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73
Which translated into ASCII gives:
ÿþbush hid the facts
So what has happened, because of the bug in notepad, the read stream of data (62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73) was interpreted as unicode, and not ASCII as it should.
FF and FE, or in ASCII "ÿþ" - these two values are normally added to UNICODE files, to be there as a marker for notepad and other text processors. When notepad opens a text file and notices these two values at the beginning of a file (FF and FE), it knows to interpret the whole file as if it included unicode. These are simply control characters for notepad.
So when I saved the file and notepad added the control characters (FF and FE) - that simply means notepad thinks it got UNICODE and not ASCII data stream.

Explanation about unicode:
ASCII is the standard for encoding english language characters into numbers. For example "b" and "u" have ascii codes 62 and 75.
The problem is, ASCII uses only 7 bits, so it can encode only 127 characters at most. That's enough for all lower and upper case english characters, numbers and some special characters like !@#$%&*()-=_+{}[];;:'",<.>/? etc, but how can we encode all the japanese, chinese, korean, cyrilic, greek etc. characters? There's many more than 127, so it was decided that 2 bytes (16 bits) will be used to encode these.

For backwards compatibility, old ASCII characters still have the same represenation in the most significant byte:
"b" and "u" that are coded in ASCII as 62 and 75 are coded in unicode as 62 00 and 75 00 - so the second byte is always zero.
so when "bush hid the facts" translated to ASCII string:
62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73
it translates (correctly )to a unicode string:
FF FE 62 00 75 00 73 00 68 00 20 00 68 00 69 00 64 00 20 00 74 00 68 00 65 00 20 00 66 00 61 00 63 00 74 00 73 00, but the FF and FE at the beginning are only there to tell notepad that the data strings that follows shoud be treated as unicode, otherwise notepad could be confused into reading it as ASCII, and would display "b_u_s_h_ _h_i_d_ _t_h_e_ _f_a_c_t_s_" instead of "bush hid the facts". BUT IT DOESN'T!
Even if you delete the control characters, FF and FE, notepad is smart enough to figure out it's UNICODE (all those 0 values) and displays the text properly. This extra "smarts", that logic that allows notepad display unicode text correctly, even without control characters, is probably also responsible for incorectly displaying short ASCII texts as unicode, which generates our problem.
When FF FE 62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73 is enterpreted as UNICODE it is as follows:
first character:
FF FE - in unicode probably some sort of control character, so not displayed by the translators:
second character:
62 75 - in ASCII would be "b" and "u", but in unicode, 6275 represents a chinese character which translates to English "Bi"
third and fourth unicode characters:
73 68 and 20 68 - ASCII "sh" and " h" do not have corresponding chinese unicode characters, therefore i.e. "worldlingo" doesn't translate them, and displays "??" instead.
fifth unicode chaacter:
68 69 - ASCII "id" in unicode corresponds to a chinese character that translates to English "touches"
and so on and so on...



Nothing else changes at all. Simply, the hex string FF FE 62 75 73 68 20 68 69 64 20 74 68 65 20 66 61 63 74 73, which translates to ASCII "ÿþbush hid the facts", when interpreted as unicode gives characters from the unicode spectrum of chinese characters (well at least a few on a random hit, since there's so many of them), which then when entered into a translator generate the translations we've already had so much fun with, i.e. "Raft-section 湥 worried thoughts 汬 desert gu dormancy 湡 獥" etc.

That's the whole secret guys.

Conspiracy theory and pattern recognition kics in, and suddenly "touches" and "reflection" make perfect sense in the context of 9/11. It would make perfect sense in any context you want, if you've got imagination! Just like Nostradamus' prophecies, and Moby Dick for that matter. Or th bible.

Hey, money, if you read this, maybe you see the problem, huh.

But your post put me in a good place right now, and I thank you for that.

:)

<3
 
Let me explain it this way:

When Joller says:the symbols can be interpreted anyway you want, since it's just data.
And you reply: No they can't. They are Chinese symbols that translate to English words. These words can be looked up in a dictionary

You are missing the point. Joller isn't arguing that you can't look them up in a dictionary. He is saying you are intrepreting those words to fit into your 911 conspiracy theory when they would mean something else to someone with a different mindset.

Ladies and gentleman (and sinsanity), an excersize in data mining with a splash of confirmation bias:
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Here I will show you how those same chinese characters can be force fit into a whole different paradigm, using your website. Your translations will be in bold, your interpreations be in italics, and my interpretations will in normal font.

Imagine that rather than having my mind filled with 911 conspiracy rubbish before stumbling across this, instead I was trying to decide whether or not to cross-dress and get some strange ass.

Away we go!

1. To pick up; collect; gather.
Your interpretation: Yup, that connects to getting 911 clues.
Mine: looks like if I decide to go out, I'll be getting some.
Here the words can mean picking up pieces of evidence, or picking up someone to sleep with and gathering phone numbers.

2. Project; reflect light, shine. - Mapping process; Mirror. Show (a movie), show (a film). Sun; day; daytime 日. Dawn; morning; day

Yours: That’s pretty good for the “noplaners”. Then it told the time of day it happened.
Mine: I should wear something shiny. Then it tells me what times of day to return home.
Again, ambiguous words, different intrepretations.

3. Rap; tap 攴. Gather, collect; harvest 收. Examine, test, investigate 攷; change, alter, improve 改. Attack, assault; criticize 攻. Government, political affairs
Yours: Wow, right on target.
Mine: Also right on target. There are the aforementioned gather and collect. I will be changing, altering and improving upon my appearance. I may be attacked, assaulted, or critized by a homophobe. Government and politics could have to do with gay marriage or the political/moral debate about being fired for off-the-job deviant sexual behavior.
Again, ambiguous words, different intrepretations.

4. Gem used as an ear plug; a jade earring. - King, ruler; royal; surname 王. Ill tempered; naughty
Yours: (here you're starting to grasp at straws) Hmmmm, maybe using money to keep people from hearing things? Follow the money. Or, maybe earpieces, Special Ops, intelligence types, military, people that wear earpieces. They always seem to have an earpiece in the movies. Both options relate to 911, Money and blackop earpieces.
Mine: Tells me to wear a jade freaking earring. If I do I'll feel on top of the world (like a king), and maybe a bit naughty. Someone else could be ill-tempered with how good I would look.
Come on! This is a better list of words for me than for you! But still, they can be interpreted either way.

5. Rub, scour, grind; friction.
Yours: Rub, scour, grind; friction, that sounds a lot like the buildings collapsing, skyscraper might point to that. Maybe this could be talking about the strange, fine dust at the WTC; it seemed to be the color of mocha. Seems like if explosives were used; there would be chemical markers in the dust that would show up. Book of Mormon is Professor Jones, he’s always mentioning it.
Mine: If I'm lucky, I'll be making some friction after grinding on the dance floor. Later, I'll remove my makeup by rubbing it off.
Are you starting to see how all these words can be fit into different scenarios?

6. Tree; wood, lumber; wooden
Yours: Tree is an important clue. (this is a really bad force fit on your part)
Mine: Uh yes, I'll be dealing with some wood, if you know what I mean.
This one fits my preconceived notions better than yours as well.

7. End, finish, conclude. - Reverent and respectful 畢恭畢敬. When all is said and done; in the final analysis 畢竟. All one's life; lifetime 畢生. Resemble closely; be the very image of; to look very much like; to be the spitting image of 畢肖. Professors are (after all) professors
Yours: Wow! And on the last symbol, nice! And the part about the “spitting image and looks like”, could apply to some theories about the airplanes being substituted for remote controlled planes that were painted like the originals. Professors is Scholars for Truth. Wow, that was a pretty close match to parts of the 911 conspiracy, all in all. Hundred percent connection, except for tree.
Mine: Ending and finishing could mean orgasming. I might want to continue to do this all my life, since I will be the spitting image of a woman. A hot professor woman.

Do I really have to go on? I'm not even to the part where I would get to talk about my privates being bald and bare, or daubing on my makeup.

As Joller was saying before you brushed him off, this is how astrology works. They give you a list of ambiguous nonsense, and you fit it into your life and make it make sense, however you can. In fact, it helps to be intelligent to do this. It makes it easier to make connections between ambiguous words and whatever is occuring in your life.

If this doesn't show you how you came to these conclusions, nothing will. I could make a convincing argument that all these could relate to a day playing baseball. So could you, sins, if you felt like it. As with your 911 theory, with crossdressing theory, not all the words apply easily. And as like you, I chose to de-emphasize those words, and focus on the one that worked well. This is confirmation bias. There is nothing paranormal about what happened to you, unless you choose to believe that it just happened to me too. In which case, my lady friend might not be too happy.

Sorry everyone for the extremely long post!
 
I would like to propose a simple test.

Five people post questions that they already know the answers to (e.g. What is my chosen career? What did I major in at uni? Who is responsible for the war memorial in my town? etc.) in this thread.

They send the answers to me via PM separately.

Sinsanity does whatever he has to do to get the internet to tell him the answers, and posts his final results.

I then post the contents of the PMs, along with my analysis of any correlations. Everyone will be encouraged to judge the results.

Note: This in no way represents an official action or test from the JREF.

Well?
 
I think that will go a bit over poor Sinsanity's head. He/she has trouble enough handling how throughly his/her little idea has just been debunked ;).

Hans
 
You figure out who Rice is yet? I think it's been about 24 hours.

Oh, I know exactly who you think Rice is.
I had an answer ready, including a comeback to your little insult, but decided against it. After this post I refuse to participate in this thread any longer, because I have some concerns about where it is heading, and in particular about your state of mind.

I think you need to step away from all this for a while. Go back outside and enjoy the stars, and the other things you describe in your article. Attend the clinic you mentioned a few posts back. Leave the pc off for a while, and don't ask the internet any more questions. I believe you saw rationality for a short time, but this thread is picking up some momentum, and you are too deeply involved in it.
 
What would I do? Well, I imagine it would be quite shocking to me if this happened. I guess I would devise a way to figure out if this is in fact happening, or if I was mistaken.

Thinking about that a moment, here's my course of action:


1. Make a list of 10 questions about a topic, say 9/11.
2. Have a friend make a list of 10 questions about a different topic, say Ansel Adams (or whatever topic you want, just make it quite different than 9/11.
3. Get a third friend. He is to do the following 10 times in a row:
* flip a coin. If heads, take a question from the 9/11 list, if tails, the Ansel Adams list.
* ask the internet the question, and record the translation. On a separate piece of paper,record whether the question was about 9/11 or Ansel Adams.

4. Give the 10 answers to you. You do not know if the question asked for each one was about 9/11 or Ansel Adams. For each of the answers, look at the Chinese translation and figure out if the question was about 9/11 or Ansel Adams. Record your response.

When you are done, see how accurate you were. If you got 8-10 right, you may be onto something here. In that case try the test several more times.

Do you understand why the test is structured this way, and why it will tell us if you are really getting answers from the internet or not?

Hope this helps.


I sat here for minute trying to think of how to express the maximum amount of appreciation possible to another human being (provided you're not the internet, maybe that's the next event).

Thanks. :)

You must have missed some of my posts.

I think this was a one time event.

My first translation was "bush hid the facts".
Then I tried the set of words "then all oil wanes".
Then I tried “fake war wtc plane”.
Then I asked a question "wtc who did it airz".
Then I tried "xxxx xxx xxx xxxxx".
This made me start looking at the individual letters.
Then I tried "aaaa aaa aaa aaaaa".
"bbbb bbb bbb bbbbb", etc.

The vast majority of what happened was single individual characters.

I only asked two questions using mixed letters:

“wtc who did it airz”
“wtc who did it ajfk”

Both not in the paranormal state.

All the rest of this was single characters.

There are eighty-four letters and symbols on the main section of the standard keyboard. Ten don't work in the bug. So there are seventy-four avalible to use. I used fifty-four of them. About seventy-three percent of them. 25

In the paranormal state, I looked at the translations of the last half of the alphabet first, for example, "rrrr rrr rrr rrrrr" with out asking any questions. I just looked at the translations and went wow. Then I asked a bunch of questions directly, using random symbols (*$}>@) and capital letters. looking for specific answers.

The answers of course will not change if you use the same characters of the keyboard. I checked that right away. So how can I use them as a proof of anything? Most of the event was just single characters, and all the paranormal activity was single characters. Over ninty percent of the translations were single characters. Ninty-three percent of the questions were single characters.

If this was a one time event, related to the 911 tragedy, it's gone. Anyone can duplicate what I did, but it's done.

The mixed character questions may or may not have been related to the sentience. Though the answer to “wtc who did it and jfk” is amazing; "stalk of Shrub, trunk of tree", that's gotta be a joke.

I haven't entered any questions into the notepad bug since this happened. And not for a second do I think that I can ask "winn ing lot totik" and get the winning lotto numbers.

uhhhhhhhhhmmmmm.

Hold on a sec.



Nope, no lotto numbers. Out of the nine symbols I recognized two of them.

Oh well.

Okay, so now I have asked one question of the notepad bug since the event.


Anyways,

I don't think this is about that. As I look back, I feel the event was about "bush hid the facts" and the internet revealed what facts bush hid.

And when I try to come up with the best answer, removing the internet as a possibility, I say that a programmer somewhere Easter egged this by programming the bug to spit out Chinese symbols that relate to 911. And I had a string of unbelievable coincedences. If in fact this notepad bug was already programmed before 911, then it approaches being mathematically impossible.

Do you see the problem with using your test?

Considering this, what would you do next?
 

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