Board political breakdown.

Politically, I am:

  • Socially Conservative and Fiscally Conservative

    Votes: 6 4.4%

  • Socially Conservative and Fiscally Moderate

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Socially Conservative and Fiscally Liberal

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Socially Moderate and Fiscally Conservative

    Votes: 18 13.2%

  • Socially Moderate and Fiscally Moderate

    Votes: 8 5.9%

  • Socially Moderate and Fiscally Liberal

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative

    Votes: 34 25.0%

  • Socially Liberal and Fiscally Moderate

    Votes: 50 36.8%

  • Socially Liberal and Fiscally Liberal

    Votes: 13 9.6%

  • Socially Planet and Fiscally X

    Votes: 5 3.7%
  • Total voters
    136
Yeah, what Grammatron said.

"Socially liberal" was the easy part: pro-choice, pro-gay-marriage. In favor of gun regulation - I don't mind if you want a pistol for self-protection or a rifle to hunt, but I don't think you have a right to a .50-cal fully-automatic weapon with armor piercing rounds.

Not quite sure of the dividing line between fiscally conservative & moderate. I believe in small government, but I believe that government does occasionally need to regulate business otherwise we'd go back to the days of the robber barons. Universal healthcare would be nice if we could find a way to do it that doesn't either bankrupt the country or make people wait 6 months to see their doctor. Don't send troops overseas unless someone attacks us first or it's part of a UN operation - lots of better uses for the money we've spent in Iraq right here. I guess I could have picked either conservative or moderate and been happy with it.
 
For such a big country, you have a remarkably small number of political alternatives.
 
CFLarsen said:
For such a big country, you have a remarkably small number of political alternatives.
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Proving the old adage "Money talks, and B.S. walks." Hasn't been a third-party with enough $$$ to mount an interesting campaign since Ross Perot.
 
Genesius said:
Proving the old adage "Money talks, and B.S. walks." Hasn't been a third-party with enough $$$ to mount an interesting campaign since Ross Perot.
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Money controls politics, and not the voice and will of the people?

Gee.
 
Upchurch said:
Equality is a liberal idea because it challenges the inequality status quo of the past.
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If I advocate repeal of the first ammendment, I would be challenging the status quo, but I wouldn't be being liberal.

Liberal policies often challenge the status quo, but it is neither necessary nor sufficient to do so in order for a policy to be liberal.
 
Mycroft said:
Hey, you voted what I voted. Let's start a political party!
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It's about time someone did, that's fer damn sure. If only the Libertarians weren't so uniformly loopy (that's capital "L" as in party members), they might actually hold some appeal.
 
Ok, maybe we need to standardize our definitions. This political compass site is one I visted in the past, and also seperates the axis of social and fiscal political ideology. Thier website is: www.politicalcompass.org

The analysis of their terms and their methodlogy is here, but they strongly recomend that you take the test before reading their analysis.

http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/analysis2.php

For the record, I'm somewhere down and to the left of Ghandi.
 
Meadmaker said:
If I advocate repeal of the first ammendment, I would be challenging the status quo, but I wouldn't be being liberal.
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If you did it in the name of excising all religious language in the public square, then yes you would be.

If you did it in the name of curtailing "hate speech," then yes you would be.

If you did it in the name of banning certain protests, like those at abortion clinics, then yes you would be.

All of which goes to my assertion that the modern liberal is all for absolute freedom, as long as you don't question what the definition of freedom is.

Liberal policies often challenge the status quo, but it is neither necessary nor sufficient to do so in order for a policy to be liberal.
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Liberal policies often challenge reality, IMHO. Again, I'm talking about the modern liberal establishment, not the term as it was once used.
 
Jocko said:
If you did it in the name of excising all religious language in the public square, then yes you would be.

If you did it in the name of curtailing "hate speech," then yes you would be.

If you did it in the name of banning certain protests, like those at abortion clinics, then yes you would be.

All of which goes to my assertion that the modern liberal is all for absolute freedom, as long as you don't question what the definition of freedom is.



Liberal policies often challenge reality, IMHO. Again, I'm talking about the modern liberal establishment, not the term as it was once used.
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I think what you mean, correct me if I'm wrong, is that modern "liberals" want to do those things, despite the fact that they rather obviously curtail freedom. That's why I say that American "liberals" aren't very liberal.

I don't want to derail the thread too far, because I think what upchurch wanted was a general poll on where we lie in the generally accepted American political spectrum. However, I find the whole topic of liberalism and what it means interesting, so I'm starting a separate thread.
 
Meadmaker said:
I think what you mean, correct me if I'm wrong, is that modern "liberals" want to do those things, despite the fact that they rather obviously curtail freedom. That's why I say that American "liberals" aren't very liberal.
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Spot on. Nor are "conservatives" very conservative, alas.
 
a_unique_person said:
Where are they all? Good question. My tip is they don't like getting bullied.
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Jesus H. Christ on a playground, did you get your lunch money stolen every day when you were a kid? Why is it every time three or four guys disagree with you or your intellectual confreres, they're suddenly a bunch of bullies? Man, if there were a "Weenie" category in the current poll, I know where you'd fit.
 
I end up moderate moderate.

socially liberal gun nut.
fiscally conservative give me a raise public employee.
 
Jocko said:
It's about time someone did, that's fer damn sure. If only the Libertarians weren't so uniformly loopy (that's capital "L" as in party members), they might actually hold some appeal.
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If we could skim the not-so-loopy Libertarians and then draw the moderates from both the Democrats and the Republicans...hmmm.
 
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