Shere Hite Report - Proof for ID

[wilks]

Which is stupid, because there is a kind of orgasm in females that involves uterine contractions, which ironically enough is most easily stimulated by means of anal sex. That one, which neither feminists nor Freud seem to have known anything about, actually has an evolutionary advantage, because it causes the cervix to bend, dipping it repeatedly into the pool of semen inside the vagina.

Um, hang on - anal sex has an evolutionary advantage because it causes the cervix to bend into the vagina......but how does the semen get into the vagina???

 

[clarsct]

I dunno. My wife reports great satisfaction from both deep penetration and clitoral stimulation, if this isn't TMI.

It seems she has ...well, not a 'G Spot' per se, but certain spots, plural, that seem to do the trick, as it were.

Of course, I have made a thorough study of each and every one of them......then again, that is a different story.


*shrug*


I imagine females have orgasms for the same evolutionary reason men do: To encourage gene propagation. I have heard that many women report being unable to have an orgasm save by clitoral stimulation, but that was on Loveline..so take it for what it's worth. All I can say is that if your lady is one of these, learn what a tongue is for.

I like to think that females have orgasms to encourage them to a repeat performance.

 

[Aepervius]

You just need imagination

Um, hang on - anal sex has an evolutionary advantage because it causes the cervix to bend into the vagina......but how does the semen get into the vagina???

Easy one, first do have normal vaginal sex, then afterward do the kinky stimulation .

Somehow I doubt it is an "evolutionary" advantage, it is probably only an accidental side effect of organ proximity.

 

[CriticalThanking]

Three engineers, one mechanical, one electrical, one civil, were discussing the nature of the universe. The mechanical engineer felt the god must be a mechanical engineer. "Just look at the human body. All those muscles and joints!"

The electrical engineer replied "Ah! But it is electrical signals from the brain that control all those muscles. God must be an electrical engineer."

The third engineer smiled smugly and said "No, he must be a civil engineer. Who else would put a toxic waste pipe through a recreational area."


CT

 

[wipeout]

yeah saw that in a film at school, was quite impressive, also it was told to us this happens in *all* kind of feminin orgasm, so enabling a better insemination.

I'm not so sure. This cervix dipping at orgasm would be because of some of the left-over male muscles for ejaculation being activated and is quite possibly moving the cervix for no purpose whatsoever.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

I've heard from several sources that many women need the help of vibrators to experience their first orgasms. Considering that we didn't have vibrators until the latter decade or so of the 19th Century (the companies which manufactured them originally marketed them to physicians as a treatment for "hysteria" in women), I find this really odd. Apparently orgasmic women didn't exist in large numbers until they became technologically augmented, like the cyborgs of science fiction.

I feel the "taboo" against touching and exploring oneself is what retards the orgasm discovery. Later on, a vibrator is more acceptable, just as the hysteria treatments were.

I discovered orgasms at a very young age, and didn't stop. I didn't have the hinderance of someone telling me to not touch myself ever.

I've also seen footage of an orgasm in action. The clitoris dips down into the deposited sperm, increasing the chance of pregnancy.

 

[Nitedawg]

I can't understand why people keep using examples of imperfect evolution as proof that evolution does not exist. Especially since imperfection is implied in the evolutionary process so it is expected to be there in an evolved orgamism.

It seems doubly odd to me that someone will then turn around and use imperfection in organisms to argue that life was created by a perfect creator, when this is the opposite of what we would expect under that theory of creation.

 

[RandFan]

I can't understand why people keep using examples of imperfect evolution as proof that evolution does not exist. Especially since imperfection is implied in the evolutionary process so it is expected to be there in an evolved orgamism.

It seems doubly odd to me that someone will then turn around and use imperfection in organisms to argue that life was created by a perfect creator, when this is the opposite of what we would expect under that theory of creation.

Agreed which is why none of us are doing that. Your point is quite valid given the thread title. If someone were using this as an example of proof of ID then it would be selectively deciding what conclusions to draw based on imperfection. A "can't win for losing" proposition.

Thanks

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Evolution would be imperfect compared to ID. ID should have more common sense approaches to designed bodies. Either that, or the designer has a warped sense of humour. It must so funny to have babies born without brains or other imperfections to mess with the mother's mind when it is born.

 

[RandFan]

Evolution would be imperfect compared to ID. ID should have more common sense approaches to designed bodies. Either that, or the designer has a warped sense of humour. It must so funny to have babies born without brains or other imperfections to mess with the mother's mind when it is born.

Agreed, and running the urethra through the prostrate was a real hoot. Hey, let's see how many times we can get the poor sod to get up and go to the bathroom at night. Admittedly not anywhere near as serious as babies without brains or postpartum depression but damn what a stupid design flaw.

 

[fuelair]

Let's take a quick dip!!!

I've also seen footage of an orgasm in action. The clitoris dips down into the deposited sperm, increasing the chance of pregnancy.

The semen must have been deposited a bit above and outside the vagina if the clitoris dipped down into it to increase anything. I suspect you are referring to the opening of the cervix which, in orgasm, does indeed dip into the pool of semen and therebye vastly increase the chance of fertilization - as noted in the input just prior to yours this quote is from.

 

[espritch]

I'm not so sure. This cervix dipping at orgasm would be because of some of the left-over male muscles for ejaculation being activated and is quite possibly moving the cervix for no purpose whatsoever.

Considering that we all start out as female and diverge durring development, I don't think these muscles should be considered as male left-overs. It might be more accurate to say "some muscles used for a different purpose in males". I doubt this motion is merely incidental.

 

[wipeout]

Considering that we all start out as female and diverge durring development, I don't think these muscles should be considered as male left-overs. It might be more accurate to say "some muscles used for a different purpose in males". I doubt this motion is merely incidental.

We don't all start off female. We all start as a mixture of both male and female. That we all start with internal genitalia is misleading. Most males in birds, reptiles, etc. still have still have internal genitalia as adults. Mammalian characteristics like external male genitalia develop later.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

The semen must have been deposited a bit above and outside the vagina if the clitoris dipped down into it to increase anything. I suspect you are referring to the opening of the cervix which, in orgasm, does indeed dip into the pool of semen and therebye vastly increase the chance of fertilization - as noted in the input just prior to yours this quote is from.

Yeah, sheesh, I meant cervix

 

[gfunkusarelius]

Hasn't it been established that the pleasure centers are located in the brain?

M.

yes, but the brain is often, according to many sources, in the penis... or at least in the general vicinity of the instruments of reproduction.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Proof please

 

[epepke]

Um, hang on - anal sex has an evolutionary advantage because it causes the cervix to bend into the vagina......but how does the semen get into the vagina???

I think you need to look up what the word "ironic" means.

 

[epepke]

yeah saw that in a film at school, was quite impressive, also it was told to us this happens in *all* kind of feminin orgasm, so enabling a better insemination.

The notion that there are different kinds of female orgasms is, I think, bushwah.

However, the notion that they vary in intensity is not, and it's only for the more intense ones that the uterus contracts enough to do this.

Orgasms for men vary in intensity as well. Men who haven't had an orgasm that is felt over the whole body for ten minutes need to work harder, or else not.

 

[RandFan]

The notion that there are different kinds of female orgasms is, I think, bushwah.

I'm no expert, trust me. I do so try. In any event, I agree. The point of the Hite report isn't that there are different types on that there are some areas that are more likely to produce an orgasm than others (consonants should be separated by a vowel).

 

[RSLancastr]

So a paraplegic woman had CT-proven evidence of an orgasm with vaginal stimulation alone...

Wow, these conspiracy theorists are everywhere!