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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Christophera said:
Look at survivor accounts for the towers. The was a fire marshall for each tower and knowing one tower would not work in the other.



The 3 stairwells were able to weave between the hallways.



First realize that no one here has ever posted an image or a link to a site that shows us the stel core columns that FEMA states existed. I've posted this url which to a site having many photos showing the concrete. It will take familiarity of concrete and steel to feel very secure with the knowledge that the cores were concrete. Basically because no steel core columns ever show, we know this image is concrete.

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Sadly Chris, you've posted images with text daubed on them, that make claims the pictures simply don't support. The images show chaos, nothing more.

Now I'm interested in getting more information about the layout of these concrete cores. The layout you describe certainly isn't impossible, the floorplans I've seen might only represent every second floor, and might only represent one of the towers. However I'm not stupid. The sunset picture shows that the core of each floor is the same as the floor below for over 90% of the floors.

The black and white picture looks exactly like an exposed steel core awaiting its drywall cladding. It does not match the floorplans I've seen or the sunset image.

The FEMA and NIST reports, the floorplans and the two photos are all mutually consistent, and there's no need for two different core layouts. They are also consistent with the logical construction process: build core, add floors, add drywall when construction is complete. Its simple ,consistent and easy.

In your version the floorplans don't match the core of one tower or 50% of the floors in the other. In your version the two towers have to be different to accomodate the two different photos. Your version doesn't match what's in the sunset photo at all, and demands a very creative interpretation of the black and white one. It contradicts every expert in the field, and in order to explain some of the other photos I posted earlier it required the concrete core to be built inside the building, several stories below the advancing steelwork and floors. I'm no expert, but that seems a bit weird does it not?
 
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Christophera said:
The building is descending from the top height, at whatever height, downwards.
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Yes, gravity still functions.

Christophera said:
The building behind the debris has not yet begun to fall. It is quite incredible that you reasonably need that explained.
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No, the building collapses, as it collapses, it is ejecting debris. The debris being ejected falls faster than the building collapses.


Christophera said:
There was a digital delay system. All timers triggered by one security phone line on each floor with other detonation delay systems for the core. The core walls were very thick down low and quite a bit of work was requried to open the inspection ports and install detonators. the intitiation system would be different. Gas flame intiation tube system rather than electric caps. Electric's are too unstable over time.
Recall that tower workers immediately following the new lease had problems getting to jobs on lower floors because of "extensive elevator maintenance. The later power down got all the floors set with electric caps 3 days prior to 9-11. The lower core (heavily loaded with C4 coated bar) would have thrown the surrounding steel outward if the steel wasn't dropped first by thermite at the base and the,

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1233383

column cutting system built into the floors. Yea, I know, very hard to beleive that such was built in, but from a position of some experience and much study, inquiry of experts, etc. before 9-11, there is no other way to get it done as we saw and see, example: square cut columns.
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Ok, so you believe the concrete core was packed with C4, I understand that. However, if that was the case, why is the core still standing in your picture after the WTC was demolished?

Christophera said:
Above I explain the delayed detonations happening above ground. The thermite was installed in 1993 after the basement bombing. That recent trial of a terrorist brought out that the FBI knew and guided the terrorist to place the van in the basement with explosives in it (away from the core). Astounding, more astounding that the information actually is out there. I wish I had links but you should be able to find it.
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Ok, I understand that you believe that thermite was used in the basement. How can you time a thermite reaction in a basement to weaken the supports at exactly the right time to coincide with the C4 explosions you claim? Thermite doesn't just switch on and off. It takes time to react and cut through the steel.

Christophera said:
Perhaps opportunities in the middle east had not developed to the point where a massive ruse was planned. Basically without opening the inspection ports and severing the C4 layer on the bar, you can't stop the whole tower going off at once like a firecracker. In answer #3 I describe that in sequence. If the basement van had been against the core it might have done the firecracker.
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So the initial C4 packed concrete core was just a prank gone wild? If they hadn't planned a massive ruse, why did they pack the concrete core with C4?

Christophera said:
The NIST report uses the FEMA WTC report as a basis for it's structural configuration analyzed. This is probably the BEST documentation in existence for the core from official sources.

http://algoxy.com/psych/psyimages/femacore.gif

I saw the 1990 documentary and remember it very well. I've been a welder for 30 years and a surveyor for 20 having laid out a number of steel and concrete structures and did some drilling and blasting. I have the basic experience to be able to see how this demo was done. I'm just reverse engineering by the seat of my pants because all the data is so scattered and sparse that it needs to be asesmbled once, first, into a scenario that explains the event so a more refined analysis can be done. The documentary, which I understood very well, gave me the information on the towers that is needed to make that scenario work.

That is all I've done and it's so damm feasible that the few people I've mentioned it to who actually have similar experience, engineers, basically took a psychological crap because [url=http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html]it adequately explained the entire Twin tower event.
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Ok, so you looked at 1 picture from the FEMA report and saw a documentary 15 years ago. Do you not think it might be important to read the NIST report to make sure you aren't missing something? What would it hurt exactly?
 
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Hi Darat. Just FYI, I wasn't attacking Christophera -- far from it. Indeed, my note was motivated out of genuine concern for his well-being. I was growing increasingly uneasy by the tenor and tone of his responses, and seriously wondered whether continuing this thread was doing him much good. If that came across as an attack, I apologize, but it most certainly wasn't my intent.
 
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Belz... said:
Oh no, 43. Please, by all means say something. Anything someone with Tuco for an avatar says can't possibly be anything else than entertaining!
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Well the same could be said for anyone with a scary armored demon avatar. I gave it a shot.
 
Christophera said:
There was a digital delay system. All timers triggered by one security phone line on each floor with other detonation delay systems for the core.
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Stop reading Clancy.

Yea, I know, very hard to beleive that such was built in,
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Make that: impossible.

I saw the 1990 documentary and remember it very well. I've been a welder for 30 years and a surveyor for 20 having laid out a number of steel and concrete structures and did some drilling and blasting. I have the basic experience to be able to see how this demo was done. I'm just reverse engineering by the seat of my pants because all the data is so scattered and sparse that it needs to be assembled once, first, into a scenario that explains the event so a more refined analysis can be done. The documentary, which I understood very well, gave me the information on the towers that is needed to make that scenario work.
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Oooooooohhh.... you've welded. Quite the expertise now, isn't it ?

Christophera said:
I would accept it from anyone but it must be consistent with other evidence of the same type.
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"As long as it doesn't clash with my preconceived ideas, sure."

Christophera said:
The remodel in the basement is when the thermite was applied to the columns.
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Huntsman, please demolish this guy... in a CONTROLLED manner.

Your government has been infitrated.
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By whom ?

Christophera said:
Thank you for putting the arrows in EXACTLY the right places on the south tower which had 2 hallways crossing both axis of the core. It was not tapered either as it was engineered as a series of stacked cells.
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As opposed to what you think, we're not looking at the towers from the TOP, you idiot.
 
Christophera said:
Labelling, minimizing, all or nothing thinking, overgeneralizations, entitlement, WOW, you really do know how to conduct cognitive distortions. And whats more amazing, is you probably don't even know you are doing it.

That is natures way of assisting with dissociation from information which is too disturbing.
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Considering you're a WELDER, and not a psychologist, I'll consider this mindless dribble from an uneducated glory-monger in denial.
 
Hutch said:
I think Belz in post #534 is probably what finally drew the comment; he did go a bit over the line, IMHO.
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I merely recommended. Didn't say _I_ was goig to do it.

Christophera said:
Robertson said in one comment I've seen that the floors disappeared when the towers were sihouetted. As the light is reflected off the concrete interior wall of the core, it tends to blur more at the distance of the photo.
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Pffft... pfwhahaha! That's the funniest thing. What, were they coated with dissapearing ink ???

ETA - Such and such.
 
bob_kark said:
My post is no longer a true statement. Carry on please.
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Posting untruths! How dare you!!!

Oh and congratulations for posting the Truth.


(Edited for content in light of Pardalis' note of my typo. Mr. Colbert would be so dissapointed in me)
 
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treble_head said:
Posting untruths! How dare you!!!

Oh and congratulations for posting the Truth.


(Edited for content in light of Pardalis' note of my typo. Mr. Colbert would be so dissapointed in me)
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What about Globalist Henchman do you not understand, Mr. Commie Skull man?
 
Christophera said:
Wrong. I have demanded to see photographic evidence that supports the NIST/FEMA claim of steel core columns. No apologies to those saying "NO" without evidence. Get evidence supporting NIST or,...........
Apologize to me.
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It's the same thing, sad sack. My evidence shows the cores that were actually built, and shows that they are not concrete. So, if I provide this evidence, do you promise to apologoze and to never bring this up on internet forums again?
 
Aww, just noticed he was suspended. Let me put on my "big surprise" face.
 
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