What happens when somebody wins?

[m_larue]

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Please do not start speculative threads. It's waste of bandwidth at worst and mental masturbation at best. The Challenge Forum features beaucoup threads where you can participate in a productive discussion. We appreciate your input.

Browse the Forum, m_larue. It'll serve your speculatory needs. I predict you will also have a laugh or two.
Upping the ante: I guarantee it.

I did not frivolously start a speculative thread. Rather, I had a serious inquiry for which I browsed several of the forums seeking the proper place to raise my question. In the process I found very little information but a lot of mean-spirited laughing-at, which I didn't expect from this site.

Ultimately I chose this forum because I expected that members involved in and informed about the Challenge would be able to address my query without bandwidth-wasting drivel. I specifically launched a new thread to isolate the question.

Thanks to all who have answered it.

 

[GzuzKryzt]

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In the process I found very little information

Speculative inquiries seldom yield profitable results in the Challenge Forum. Especially by rookies. No offense, m_larue. (You want speculation galore: Try the "Religion and Philosophy" Forum, for example.)

but a lot of mean-spirited laughing-at,...
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"Evidence, please."



Dude, you have to do your own research. Being a writer, you should have this down, don't you? You will find 592 threads in the Challenge Forum alone. Go nuts. Fire up the coffee pot - or the teapot - and browse 12 hours nonstop. Pig out on information. Go on a searching spree. Enjoy this Forum up & down, left & right, spank that forum baby, turn it up yeah, spank it baby yeah, spank it, tap that...aaalllright, I took it too far.

Enjoy, anyway.

 

[ruach1]

I did not frivolously start a speculative thread. Rather, I had a serious inquiry for which I browsed several of the forums seeking the proper place to raise my question. In the process I found very little information but a lot of mean-spirited laughing-at, which I didn't expect from this site.

Ultimately I chose this forum because I expected that members involved in and informed about the Challenge would be able to address my query without bandwidth-wasting drivel. I specifically launched a new thread to isolate the question.

Thanks to all who have answered it.

If there is a "bona fide" psychic act that passes an uncheatable scientific test (of which Randi approves ), then that person will be scrutinized at all levels. He/she will probably be approached by the Pentagon to see if the ability can be "weaponized" for the security of Democracy. He/she will probabaly be asked to sponsor products in various countries--if this person's scrutinized past holds up to product endorsement. And, of course, there will be "fringe individuals" who may/will probably think something along the lines of, "Million dollar psychic, eh? Well let's see if you can psychic your way out of this bullet shot through this rifle."

 

[GzuzKryzt]

If there is a "bona fide" psychic act that passes an uncheatable scientific test (of which Randi approves ), then that person will be scrutinized at all levels. He/she will probably be approached by the Pentagon to see if the ability can be "weaponized" for the security of Democracy. He/she will probabaly be asked to sponsor products in various countries--if this person's scrutinized past holds up to product endorsement. And, of course, there will be "fringe individuals" who may/will probably think something along the lines of, "Million dollar psychic, eh? Well let's see if you can psychic your way out of this bullet shot through this rifle."

Ruach1, do you want to "PSI-Kick" your way out of the hole you dug in your thread? It's right here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56299



Sorry, m_larue. Keep on browsin'.

 

[JollyRoger]

If there is a "bona fide" psychic act that passes an uncheatable scientific test (of which Randi approves ), then that person will be scrutinized at all levels. He/she will probably be approached by the Pentagon to see if the ability can be "weaponized" for the security of Democracy. He/she will probabaly be asked to sponsor products in various countries--if this person's scrutinized past holds up to product endorsement. And, of course, there will be "fringe individuals" who may/will probably think something along the lines of, "Million dollar psychic, eh? Well let's see if you can psychic your way out of this bullet shot through this rifle."

Now theirs some good incentive. I hear thier is some interesting people in that odd shaped office building

 

[ImOne]

It won't be that big of a deal. Most people are not interested in the JREF Challenge, and the challenge has little or nothing to do with science.

Tests have already been done. Psychic abilities are very weak and inconsistent. Some people are better at psi that others. The studies have always been on a small scale so achieving statistical significance is rare and the successful results are always attributed to chance, fraud, or incompetence.

The pathological skeptics will be sure the winner cheated.

The skeptics will call for more testing to make sure it wasn't a fluke.

The people that already know will wonder why it took so long.

The balance of belief will tip every so slightly as to be unnoticeable.

 

[gnome]

Tests have already been done. Psychic abilities are very weak and inconsistent. Some people are better at psi that others. The studies have always been on a small scale so achieving statistical significance is rare and the successful results are always attributed to chance, fraud, or incompetence.

If psi cannot be distinguished from chance results... how can it be said to exist? It is possible to test reliably for even a slight effect, by including lots of repetition.

 

[Flange Desire]

Psychic abilities are very weak and inconsistent. Some people are better at psi that others. The studies have always been on a small scale so achieving statistical significance is rare and the successful results are always attributed to chance, fraud, or incompetence.

Wrong - psychic abilities are consistently absent.
Any 'tests' that may show otherwise are flawed.

Wrong - no-one is better at psi than anyone else.
n * 0 = 0

Wrong - there have been a few large scale studies.

Yes, any successful results are correctly attributed to chance, fraud, or incompetence.

 

[TheBoyPaj]

If there is a "bona fide" psychic act that passes an uncheatable scientific test.... he/she will probabaly be asked to sponsor products in various countries

You mean, like this?