Did Rumsfeld Lie?

[Elind]

Don't waste your time. Mr. thaiboxerken commands limited control over the English language.

He also seems to have a limited concept of reality. See my signature below. Feel free to click on the links, if you enjoy bizarre entertainment.

I appreciate the backup but; funny thing is I had you pigeoned as a religious version of Andy and Yandy (of course Bhuddism isn't really a religion) but we'll see how we get along in the future. (Personally I think you're a bit whacky, but we'll see).

 

[Huntster]

Perhaps, because under Bush's administation, he wouldn't need a warrant to observe every aspect of your private life.

If he isn't government, he can observe many aspects of your private life without a warrant.

Private spies don't need warrants.

 

[Huntster]

I appreciate the backup...

I just like to poke at thaiboxerken. He's so foolish, he's funny. I'd like to see what gem he offers next.

...funny thing is I had you pigeoned as a religious version of Andy and Yandy...

Who is Andy and Yandy?

...(Personally I think you're a bit whacky, but we'll see).

Well, I'm as whacky as the next guy, but not near as whacky as thaiboxerken. I'm religious, but I admit seeing things a lot differently than most Christians.

I like to joke around. I'm getting the opportunity to joke around more here lately.

 

[Elind]

I like to joke around. I'm getting the opportunity to joke around more here lately.

Only problem with that is that you label yourself as a jokester; otherwise known as

 

[a_unique_person]

I just like to poke at thaiboxerken. He's so foolish, he's funny. I'd like to see what gem he offers next.

Not quite the aim of the forum, though, is it?

 

[Huntster]

Originally Posted by Huntster :
I just like to poke at thaiboxerken. He's so foolish, he's funny. I'd like to see what gem he offers next.

Not quite the aim of the forum, though, is it?

No, it isn't.

But please review his own trolling. My signature line offers just a few of the precious silliness he likes to post. The mods don't seem to mind. So what do you do? Ignore the fool? Sure.

But what about when he's trolling around, looking for YOU?

I'm from the old school. Give them back a taste of their own medicine, but do it better. After a while, he'll get the picture.

 

[Elind]

Not quite the aim of the forum, though, is it?

We agree on something after all.

 

[thaiboxerken]

If he isn't government, he can observe many aspects of your private life without a warrant.

Private spies don't need warrants.

Private spies are breaking the law. Does that make it right for the government to break the same laws?

 

[thaiboxerken]

But please review his own trolling. My signature line offers just a few of the precious silliness he likes to post. The mods don't seem to mind. So what do you do? Ignore the fool? Sure.

Feel free to start a thread about it, maybe even a poll, sasquatch-boy.

 

[Elind]

Private spies are breaking the law. Does that make it right for the government to break the same laws?

Private "spies" as you call them, using legally public information, break no law. The same applies to government. What you are implying is that you want all information, including that legislated by government in the interest of "open" government, to be considered secret. So who is the hypocrite here?

 

[thaiboxerken]

Private "spies" as you call them, using legally public information, break no law.

People that tap phone lines without warrant are breaking the law.

The same applies to government. What you are implying is that you want all information, including that legislated by government in the interest of "open" government, to be considered secret. So who is the hypocrite here?

No, I'm implying that the government is spying on people of the general public, violating privacy laws. It's not OK for the government or private people to tap my phone lines, monitor my email and internet without a warrant.

 

[CFLarsen]

People that tap phone lines without warrant are breaking the law.

"It's not illegal if the President is doing it".

Have you learnt nothing from the past?

 

[Huntster]

Originally Posted by Huntster :
If he isn't government, he can observe many aspects of your private life without a warrant.

Private spies don't need warrants.

Private spies are breaking the law....

What law? It's perfectly legal to for private entities to gather intelligence, depending on how they do it.

...Does that make it right for the government to break the same laws...

There are very strict laws for government with regard to surveillance, foreign and domestic.

C'mon, thaiboxerken; you knew that, didn't you?

(See sig lines below, particularly: "I'm always right".)

 

[Huntster]

Feel free to start a thread about it, maybe even a poll, sasquatch-boy.

I don't need to.

You're better advertising than I could buy.

 

[Huntster]

...People that tap phone lines without warrant are breaking the law....

Guess what, fool:

Nobody is "tapping your line" when you type your foolishness here.

And you reveal much.........

...No, I'm implying that the government is spying on people of the general public, violating privacy laws. It's not OK for the government or private people to tap my phone lines, monitor my email and internet without a warrant....

Prove it, "science" boy.

I have more proof of sasquatch than you have that somebody is "tapping your line".

Hell, who'd want to tap your line?

You're hanging your dirty laundry out here for all to see, and you have absolutely nothing the NSA would be interested in.

 

[thaiboxerken]

What law? It's perfectly legal to for private entities to gather intelligence, depending on how they do it.

Depending on how they do it... hmm. Why do I think those words are important?

There are very strict laws for government with regard to surveillance, foreign and domestic.

C'mon, thaiboxerken; you knew that, didn't you?

(See sig lines below, particularly: "I'm always right".)

There are, but those laws seemed to have been ignored, and then changed to make those laws insignificant. Then, when found out, the government wanted to file charges against the ones that reported the illegal surveillance.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I have more proof of sasquatch than you have that somebody is "tapping your line".

I doubt that anyone is tapping my line, but they can. The government can issue secret warrants in a secret court of law to do a secret operation on me just by claiming that I am a terrorist suspect. They don't even have to give the secret judge secret evidence that I'm doing anything wrong, they just have to promise to the secret judge that they can find evidence. I don't trush phantom governmental procedings. The government should be accountable to the public.

I never claimed that the government would be interested in me, as I'm not a political threat to the Bush admin, I don't know anyone in the middle-east and I don't wear a turban.

 

[Rob Lister]

I never claimed that the government would be interested in me, as I'm not a political threat to the Bush admin, I don't know anyone in the middle-east and I don't wear a turban.

Then clearly no known member of a terrorist orgainization would call you from overseas on your phone.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Then clearly no known member of a terrorist orgainization would call you on your phone.

But would they call quakers?

http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc121605

 

[Rob Lister]

But would they call quakers?

http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc121605

I don't care who they call, the calls need to be monitored. Any president unwilling to do so is one I will not support. How 'bout them apples.

ETA: I love your sources.