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Blackwell said:
It sure would be a shame if someone were to post a video (using the keywords "loose," "change" and "911") of "Dylan Avery" and friends, complete with black t-shirts, renouncing the LC video and apologizing for their shoddy research...

/off to find my video camera and 2 or 3 college-age actors
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Mnyuck, mnyuck!
 
brodski said:
Mark Kermode already covered "loose Change" in the Guardian he was not supportive of Avery and co. http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,1749999,00.html

The guardian does use a lot of freelancers, so tracking down a specific future story may be tricky.
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You know its weird seeing these CT folks celebrating getting their stories into the mainstream media. This Guardian thing is one example, I also fleetingly saw some boast about Loose Change getting a mention on Fox News. It's like they've forgotten that the "evil media collaborators covering up the truth and releasing fake stories", is an absolutely essential part of the conspiracy.

It seems to me like an explosion in popularity will actually kill this thing off in the same way the X-Files killed off the quietly building suspicions about Roswell etc. As it becomes more popular, so many of its central issues start to fall apart. The Dark Conspiracy loses its mystique when discussed openly between the guys who are supposed to be in on it. The bitterly antisocial cause loses its appeal to the misfits and rebels when its all over daytime TV.

Ultimately, its going to fade away because it can't possibly sustain itself under pressure from news-hungry networks and viewers. The 911 conspiracy is a Big Idea, that easily captures the imagination but after it hits the headlines, it needs to follow-up with dramatic developments, twists and turns. The UFO scene had that until they peaked at the autopsy video, but of course, the 911 conspiracy can't have a follow-up, because it's in the past, and there isn't any substance. How long will the general public tolerate a trickle of ineptly formed and utterly inconsistent inuendo? Not long is my guess. All but the the familiar collection of cranks will look back after a couple of years and say, 'Hey what about all that 911 stuff. Didn't some folks say it was an inside job? Guess nothing came of that.'

That's my feeling anyway. Seems like the moon hoax was all over the media a while back, until suddenly the trendy thing was to not belive in the moon hoax.
 
brodski said:
there was a nice piece on the BBCs "newsnight" programme on 9/11 CTs yesterday, you can watch it here.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/3681938.stm

I would really love to see Dylan Avery interviewed by Jeremy Paxman :D
(for non UK residents Paxman, who hosts Newsnight, has a reputation for being a very incisive, but incredibly vicious interviews, he strikes fear into most politicians who come up against him, he is not in the clip I linked to)
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Actually the Newsnight clip is here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4987504.stm (upper right corner) but the sound didn't work for me so I don't know what they said.

You're welcome :)
 
Loose Bowels forum said:
If you're a student who has a teacher who believes in 9/11 truth, you could "secretly" bring a tape recorder to class and tape record your teacher saying that Bush was responsible for 9/11.
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I think someone should warn them. If they plan on secretly taping their teacher, they should take their lunch in a paper bag and put the recorder there, rather then in their tin Pokemon lunch box.
 
brodski said:
thanks.
I'm not sure how I posted the wrong link. it's a conspiracy I tells ya. ;)
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I nearly posted the same faulty link in my correction. Somthing weird at the BBC site.

Anyway, don't know if this has been posted already. It's quite an amusing article about the Pentagon and Loose Change specifically.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4990686.stm

The theorists do not believe eyewitnesses, physical evidence, engineering studies or even the claims of Osama Bin Laden, so it is unlikely that they will be convinced by grainy video frames.
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The Loosers have a reposte however...
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4374

On a Small Note the BBC have always been noted for their biased.. so this article is no shock to me or to any of my friends who have read it... the fact that L/C 2 Has been mentioned on the BBC website to me is a good thing (just a pitty) they do not have a comments section on it, I would have putin a few words off my own in rebuttle to the what the BBC Claims....
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Poor BBC. Absolutely everyone with an opinion accuses them of bias. And why can nobody over there spell rebuttal? It's rediculous!
 
Shrinker said:
Ruining the career of a fellow truth seeker just to get themselves in the media? What a wonderful cozy little movement.
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Speaking of ruined careers, I have a friend who has a home business composing and writing resumes.

So this welder comes in looking to have a resume done and she starts the interview to get all his education, training and work history down. As soon as she gets to his latest job and asks him why he left, he starts spewing 9-11 conspiracy gibberish claiming that's why he was fired.

Appearantly, if you work in the oil industry, specifically with open flames in the prescence of oxygen and acetelyne tanks and you go around telling your boss that nothing explodes inside a burning building unless it's a brick of C4, he will fire your dumb ass becuase YOUR IGNORANCE OF BASIC FIRE SAFETY WILL KILL HIS EMPLOYEES AND BLOW UP HIS BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT!!!

I've never heard a CTist acknowledge the basic fact that everything from spray cans and pop bottles to undischarged fire extinguishers, power transformers and propane or oxygen tanks can and will explode when immersed in flames. To a man, they all claim that the explosions reported by various witness at the WTC could only have been the result of demolition charges and nothing else.

So here's a guy who could be making (depending on his certifications) 60 to 100$ an hour in the Alberta oil industry but instead he's heading for a cardboard box in a back alley because his head is so full of CT garbage that he is a literal threat to anyone who hires him.
 
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Shrinker said:
I nearly posted the same faulty link in my correction. Somthing weird at the BBC site.

Anyway, don't know if this has been posted already. It's quite an amusing article about the Pentagon and Loose Change specifically.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4990686.stm



The Loosers have a reposte however...
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4374


Poor BBC. Absolutely everyone with an opinion accuses them of bias. And why can nobody over there spell rebuttal? It's rediculous!
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yeah, the BBC are just government shills *CoughHutton-reportCough*
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Appearantly, if you work in the oil industry, specifically with open flames in the prescence of oxygen and acetelyne tanks and you go around telling your boss that nothing explodes inside a burning building unless it's a brick of C4, he will fire your dumb ass becuase YOUR IGNORANCE OF BASIC FIRE SAFETY WILL KILL HIS EMPLOYEES AND BLOW UP HIS BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT!!!

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So here's a guy who could be making (depending on his certifications) 60 to 100$ an hour in the Alberta oil industry but instead he's heading for a cardboard box in a back alley because his head is so full of CT garbage that he is a literal threat to anyone who hires him.
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I love it. I hope the 911 "Truth" movement is proud of this little festival of insanity they've got cooking.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Appearantly, if you work in the oil industry, specifically with open flames in the prescence of oxygen and acetelyne tanks and you go around telling your boss that nothing explodes inside a burning building unless it's a brick of C4, he will fire your dumb ass becuase YOUR IGNORANCE OF BASIC FIRE SAFETY WILL KILL HIS EMPLOYEES AND BLOW UP HIS BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT!!!
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This will now be in the running for The Sentence of the Year Award. Hosted by Thomas Pynchon oddly enough...
 
Geggy,

The power of CTs compels you
The power of CTs compels you
The power of CTs compels you...to post more CTs
 
Shrinker said:
...It seems to me like an explosion in popularity will actually kill this thing off in the same way the X-Files killed off the quietly building suspicions about Roswell etc. As it becomes more popular, so many of its central issues start to fall apart. The Dark Conspiracy loses its mystique when discussed openly between the guys who are supposed to be in on it. The bitterly antisocial cause loses its appeal to the misfits and rebels when its all over daytime TV.

Ultimately, its going to fade away because it can't possibly sustain itself under pressure from news-hungry networks and viewers. The 911 conspiracy is a Big Idea, that easily captures the imagination but after it hits the headlines, it needs to follow-up with dramatic developments, twists and turns. The UFO scene had that until they peaked at the autopsy video, but of course, the 911 conspiracy can't have a follow-up, because it's in the past, and there isn't any substance. How long will the general public tolerate a trickle of ineptly formed and utterly inconsistent inuendo? Not long is my guess. All but the the familiar collection of cranks will look back after a couple of years and say, 'Hey what about all that 911 stuff. Didn't some folks say it was an inside job? Guess nothing came of that.'..
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I'd like to believe you. However, last time I checked, JFK was still not resting in peace.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
...Appearantly, if you work in the oil industry, specifically with open flames in the prescence of oxygen and acetelyne tanks and you go around telling your boss that nothing explodes inside a burning building unless it's a brick of C4, he will fire your dumb ass becuase YOUR IGNORANCE OF BASIC FIRE SAFETY WILL KILL HIS EMPLOYEES AND BLOW UP HIS BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT!!!
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From my favorite post of mid-May. Thanks, SOT.

Oh, yeah. It's sad, too. I'm just laughing to keep from crying.
 
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