Loose Change

[Pardalis]

I'd still love to see the faces of the structural engineers when Judy Wood, the dental engineer, explains how the entire falling mass of the buildings should have stopped at each floor.

Maybe the Cts have built themselves an ivory tower?

 

[geggy]

-I'm 100 percent certain the nist, sept 11 commissioners and supporters of the official story will fold like wet tortillas after being offered to debate with team liberty. If the bush admin had blocked inquiry into nsa spying/torture scandals, why in the world would they openly debate on this matter? It's just as big of a fantasy as oprah discussing sept 11 publicly, since that her magazine is owned by the hearst corporation, who also owns popular mechanics and the history channel, the big "supporters" of the official story.

-Power of christ compels you to understand the family guy reference.

-Sorry pardelis, no work for me today. Didn't you hear about the flooding? It's all bush's fault.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

...Sorry pardelis, no work for me today...

So, I forget, what do you do for a living?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

-I'm 100 percent certain the nist, sept 11 commissioners and supporters of the official story will fold like wet tortillas after being offered to debate with team liberty...

Since you are "100 percent [sic] certain," what then is Team Liberty's (snort) proof, their evidence? Point by point.

I myself am 100% certain you don't know.

 

[Polaris]

Actually, I'm sure you'll find lots of people who will argue that the government did not know there would be an attack. What are those people called? HISTORIANS!

Did I mention I really, really find conspiracy theorists to be condescending [rule8]'s?

I used to work with a die-hard conspiracy nut - 9/11, OKC, Pearl Harbor, JFK, USS Liberty - all done by the Globalists/Illuminati/Zionists (he was particularly fond of blaming the Zionists - but he'd get angry if I asked called his conspirators the Five Jew Bankers) for the bettering of Israel/the Neo-Cons.
He also had a thing for junk science (this was a guy who still believed in the ether, and that cold fusion was possible).

When I mentioned that quote of FDR's, upon hearing of the Japanese attack, where he asked if it was "the Philippines?" - he had a ready-made answer: "Oh that was just plausible deniability."

There's no winning with these people.

 

[aggle-rithm]

-Power of christ compels you to understand the family guy reference.

...or maybe the Exorcist...?

Or is that movie too much culture for you?

 

[Polaris]

So there was some anticipation in the Government that there would be an attack. What was NOT KNOWN was the size of the attack, the target and the date--which are mildly important when it comes to conspiracies.

Not to mention the torpedo technology dropped by the Japanese planes into Pearl Harbor didn't exist until the Japs invented an airborne torpedo that could be dropped into low-draft water. How exactly was FDR supposed to know an attack on Pearl Harbor was coming when the weapons needed to actually sink the moored ships weren't battle-tested UNTIL Pearl Harbor? (If I remember correctly, 16" battleship shells were converted into aerial bombs for use against the Pacific Fleet as well).

 

[Regnad Kcin]

geggy, I know I, nor anyone else, is going to draw you out. That's because you're a fraud, a lightweight.

You present no proof for your claim(s).

You present no evidence.

You present no coherent, verifiable narrative for the events of 9/11 as you see them.

Your fondness for raising questions and posting Internet links notwithstanding, what's the point? This is a forum dedicated to critical thinking. You don't belong.

 

[hellaeon]

R Kcin, All jokes aside, that is exactly correct. At times this thread has certainly been derailed by snide and silly remarks, but in a nutshell, that is something that is seemingly missed. This forum is unique on the internet as its not only frequented by well trained professionals of many fields of expertise, but also by those on the absolute opposite scale.

I had a convo with the lady last night about all of this stuff and we both remarked what kind of psychological impact must be created to cause someone to go the way of the average CT.

I always will maintain its a belief system like a religion and that to admit themselves as wrong and learn from their mistakes is somehow overweighed by the need to belong to a group. If I ever was to suddenly change my future and study psychology, I would love to study this CT phenomena.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Well thanks, friend. I agree with your thoughts re: the religious aspect of these beliefs. (And I enjoyed post #3924.)

By the way, which is you in the avatar?

 

[Gravy]

Your fondness for raising questions and posting Internet links notwithstanding, what's the point? This is a forum dedicated to critical thinking. You don't belong.

And he video he linked to states, several times, that Al Qaeda is responsible for 9/11. What a maroon.

 

[hellaeon]

Well thanks, friend. I agree with your thoughts re: the religious aspect of these beliefs. (And I enjoyed post #3924.)

By the way, which is you in the avatar?

im the one in the foreground, the background guy is Nergal, singer/guitarist of the mighty Behemoth!

man - that final fight scene in commando is so damn funny. Even that movie is more realistic then the 9/11 CT.

I mean who does not want to be like either of those blokes in the movie?
Arnie because even with your limited english, you still have the best one liners and a body the size of an elephant...and then bennet...I mean cruise to work in a limo wearing chainmail.....classic!

This has been one of my favourite threads. Its like the million dollar challenge, except there are multiple applicants of the same one crazy ideal.
Mostly though as it addressed something that needed to be addressed and did it with proper logic and reasoning and im better educated for it.

 

[Mercutio]

-I'm 100 percent certain the nist, sept 11 commissioners and supporters of the official story will fold like wet tortillas after being offered to debate with team liberty. [snip]

No, you aren't. You don't believe that any more than you believe the rest of the tripe you pretend to. But unless I miss my guess, you are having fun with it.

-Sorry pardelis, no work for me today. Didn't you hear about the flooding? It's all bush's fault.

Be safe, geggy--they are evacuating people all over the place. If the firefighters tell you to get the family and go, don't pretend they are part of a global conspiracy out to get you. The flooding is part of the real world, not one of the games you are playing here. Be safe, geggy.

 

[Pardalis]

I've just listened to the radio show featuring Dylan Avery that was posted, and all I got to say is wow, this guy doesn't know what mess he's getting himself in!

Sooner or later, Avery is going to have a law suit on his hands. What he's doing, and what his films are doing, are dangerously close to diffamation of character, at least, from my view. Were not talking about a non-consequential mistake due to youthfull immaturity anymore, we're talking about serious criminal lawsuits. I wonder how long it's going to take for the other most high-profiled CTs to get their asses sued. You can't hide behind the first amendment forever, these guys are actually accusing people of corruption and mass murder. You can't hide behind the "I was just asking questions" rhethoric, some day you have to take responsability for what you say and face the consequences.

 

[CurtC]

I went a-Googlin' to see if I could find any talk shows that have Dylan Avery scheduled to be on. One of the first links I checked out was this one: http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/maxshows/index.php

He's going to be on Wednesday this week.

So then I look up at the top of the page to see what font of knowledge was having Dylan on, and I see this: "Read an interview with JZ Knight... from your relationships to your possibilities!"

I wonder if the 35000 year old warrior spirit Ramtha is going to interview him. You'd think that someone who really thought that his government killed 3000 people, and he has the evidence showing it, would be talking to reporters, structural engineers, firefighters, but Dylan is talking to... wacko nutjobs.

 

[Abbyas]

I'm sure this has been said many times before, but why is it that so many people that demand you question the government get so angry when you question them.

A few months ago I ran into these people at the WTC (they have sinced been asked to stay away, understandably as it is a grave sight). I got into it with them and they grew increasingly angry with me. When I suggested that they look at this scientifically, I was told that science does so much damage.

My theory is that it's along the lines of christians that can't wait for the armagaddeon. They want so badly for this to be true and when the hammer falls, you'll all be sorry.

It's also an excuse to avoid real change. Why should I try to better our society when it's all so corrupt?

 

[Gravy]

I've just listened to the radio show featuring Dylan Avery that was posted, and all I got to say is wow, this guy doesn't know what mess he's getting himself in!

Sooner or later, Avery is going to have a law suit on his hands. What he's doing, and what his films are doing, are dangerously close to diffamation of character, at least, from my view. Were not talking about a non-consequential mistake due to youthfull immaturity anymore, we're talking about serious criminal lawsuits. I wonder how long it's going to take for the other most high-profiled CTs to get their asses sued. You can't hide behind the first amendment forever, these guys are actually accusing people of corruption and mass murder. You can't hide behind the "I was just asking questions" rhethoric, some day you have to take responsability for what you say and face the consequences.

I only listened to a bit of it. Does he accuse specific people of specific acts? That would be a big improvement, if he had evidence to back it up.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

...A few months ago I ran into these people at the WTC (they have sinced been asked to stay away, understandably as it is a grave sight...

I'm generally not one to correct message board typos. However, your misspelling of "gravesite" is nevertheless all too true; Ground Zero is a "grave sight."

 

[Pardalis]

I only listened to a bit of it. Does he accuse specific people of specific acts? That would be a big improvement, if he had evidence to back it up.

No one specifically... so far. But it's only a matter of time. His insinuations eventually are going to point the finger to specific individuals. I wonder what Silverstein might be thinking of Loose Change.

I wonder also if there is an equivalent of "diffamation of character" to companies and organisations?

 

[NobbyNobbs]

Looks like one of the admins from LC was banned from their forum for banning people. I don't know how to post URLs yet, but perhaps someone here will find it. Pablo let me know.