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Multiple Challenges

emph said:
Although others may become involved in the examination of claims and may add their reward money to the total in certain circumstances, James Randi (via the JREF) will carry out the implementation and management of the challenge.


who is others that is spoken here, I dont understand who that is.


Also when you refer to we are not represenatives of jref, who is we.
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emph - this section is about the Million Dollar Challenge as administered by the JREF. IF you are considering applying for the Challenge then please feel free to raise questions that are directly about that or an aspect of the Challenge.

Members of the forum do not represent the JREF, if you have questions that you wish to be addressed by the JREF regarding your application you should send them to Randi (randi@randi.org) or Jeff Wagg (jeff@randi.org).
 
TheBoyPaj said:
The forum members are not representatives of the JREF. We're just a bunch of hangers-on. Some forum members are very expereinced in their field, and bring a lot of knowledge to the site.

People who may be involved in the tests would be third parties such as local skeptic groups or people with specialist scientific or technical knowledge. Their input is needed because if, say, an applicant is based in Japan, the JREF don't want to have to fly someone out to supervise a test.
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So then the writings and everything recorded they will have access to this also.
 
Darat said:
emph - this section is about the Million Dollar Challenge as administered by the JREF. IF you are considering applying for the Challenge then please feel free to raise questions that are directly about that or an aspect of the Challenge.

Members of the forum do not represent the JREF, if you have questions that you wish to be addressed by the JREF regarding your application you should send them to Randi (randi@randi.org) or Jeff Wagg (jeff@randi.org).
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Although others may become involved in the examination of claims and may add their reward money to the total in certain circumstances, James Randi (via the JREF) will carry out the implementation and management of the challenge.

Who is others please specify.


Applicant agrees that all data (photographic, recorded, written, etc.) gathered as a result of the testing may be used freely by the JREF.


What does this mean please specify?
 
emph said:
Although others may become involved in the examination of claims and may add their reward money to the total in certain circumstances, James Randi (via the JREF) will carry out the implementation and management of the challenge.

Who is others please specify.
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It is not possible to specify. I have told you the type of person that this might be.

Applicant agrees that all data (photographic, recorded, written, etc.) gathered as a result of the testing may be used freely by the JREF.

What does this mean please specify?
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Tests will generate data. Those might be videos of your test, or photographs, or recordings. Some tests will generate performance data. The JREF can use that data as they wish, and publish it freely.

Some take this to mean that you would not be free to publish your account of the test, and that the JREF have the right to cover up tests that don't go their way, but the rule does not say this.

Basically, this rule is just so that a failed applicant cannot try to stop the JREF from mentioning that fact.
 
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emph said:
Although others may become involved in the examination of claims and may add their reward money to the total in certain circumstances, James Randi (via the JREF) will carry out the implementation and management of the challenge.

Who is others please specify.
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Other organizations may help with the preliminary testing. They also sometimes offer their own prize money (usually something like $10 000) if the test should prove positive.

Examples of such organizations would be:
CSICOP: http://www.csicop.org/
CFI-West: http://www.cfiwest.org/
IIG west http://www.iigwest.com/

Also for your convenience, I'll link directly to the IIG west challenge site here: http://www.iigwest.com/challenge.html

Finally, I'll link to a report of a test actually made by IIG west, reported on the CSICOP site that was an actual preliminary test for the JREF challenge.
http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/nguyen.html

Applicant agrees that all data (photographic, recorded, written, etc.) gathered as a result of the testing may be used freely by the JREF.

What does this mean please specify?
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For example, after testing you may or may not find your picture posted on the internet, and your challenge correspondence fully or partially quoted on the log of applicants section of the forum. The point is JREF is free to publish any material as it wishes and you can't stop them even if it would seem humiliating.

Others may correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Now would I be entitled to all information recordings writings etc. gathered by and done during the test before during and afterwards by the jref?
 
Now I have tried my very best to answer your questions. So would you, in turn, please answer these few questions clearly:

1) What is the paranormal ability that you claim to demonstrate?

2) How do you plan to demonstrate this claim?

3) With what accuracy?

4) Under which conditions?
 
emph said:
Now would I be entitled to all information recordings writings etc. gathered by and done during the test before during and afterwards by the jref?
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The rules do not specify this. You should write to the challenge organiser.
 
Mendeli said:
Now I have tried my very best to answer your questions. So would you, in turn, please answer these few questions clearly:

1) What is the paranormal ability that you claim to demonstrate?

2) How do you plan to demonstrate this claim?

3) With what accuracy?

4) Under which conditions?
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1) I have the gift to bring in white light in the top of my head. With this ability I also bring in hot energy also.

2) In a jacuzzi.

3) Depending on what im dealing with.

4) I have not came to a decision as of right now.
 
emph said:
I would want what they write down and any information they write before the test during and after. From all people involved.
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Again please contact Randi or Jeff if you wish to have this confirmed. No one here can tell you if this is a request that the JREF will entertain or not.
 
emph said:
1) I have the gift to bring in white light in the top of my head. With this ability I also bring in hot energy also.

2) In a jacuzzi.

3) Depending on what im dealing with.

4) I have not came to a decision as of right now.
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Then you are not ready to apply to the challenge.

Also I would point you to the fact that the JREF if past experience is a guide will more then likely require three affidavits from "professionals" (affirming to having witnessed your power) before entertaining your application. Therefore it is probably worthwhile if you do indeed intend to apply to be getting hold of these now.
 
emph said:
I would want what they write down and any information they write before the test during and after. From all people involved.
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What would they be writing down anyways? As it seems this is not one of those word play telepathy claims, I would guess not much at all.

They would pretty much just observe there being light or there not be light on the top of your head. I'm not sure how you would measure the hot energy so maybe you should just ignore that, the light alone should be worth you getting the $Million price.
 
emph said:
1) I have the gift to bring in white light in the top of my head. With this ability I also bring in hot energy also.

2) In a jacuzzi.

3) Depending on what im dealing with.

4) I have not came to a decision as of right now.
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Hmm. You probably realise that there are elements of your claim that some will find amusing. You may get some ribbing from the forum members, but remember that no one here represents the JREF and you should not let jokes deter you from your application.
 
emph said:
1) I have the gift to bring in white light in the top of my head. With this ability I also bring in hot energy also.
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Always one light? Always white?
What kind of light (bright or vague? what size?)
How long will it take for you to make the light appear?
Where exactly will it appear to come out of?
How long will it stay?
Where will it go?
How will it behave? Will it pulsate or stay stable?
What do you propose will constitute a successful demonstration?
 
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Darat said:
Then you are not ready to apply to the challenge.

Also I would point you to the fact that the JREF if past experience is a guide will more then likely require three affidavits from "professionals" (affirming to having witnessed your power) before entertaining your application. Therefore it is probably worthwhile if you do indeed intend to apply to be getting hold of these now.
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This should be takin into consideration that what I can do can not be seen by the normal eye. So there really are no witnesses as to seeing my gifts.
 
Jacuzzi Recipe #116573
I would classify this as a romance drink. A nice bubbly drink best enjoyed in a jacuzzi with your one and only or even your one for the moment.
1 ounce gin
2/3 ounce peach schnapps
1 ounce fresh squeezed orange juice
champagne
1 servings
 
Only I can see the white light no one else. White is not the only light I see or use it is the only light I use when I heal people. Not sure if I mentioned this before im Silver and from my hands drips Mercury.
 
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