Loose Change

[aggle-rithm]

I'd suggest a thirst strike - its quicker.

Oxygen strike would be quicker still.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Hi geggy. For at least the fourth time (I've lost count): Assuming your version of 9/11 is correct, and the current administration are a bunch of heartless mass murderers, could you please tell me what we as Americans should do about this?

I think he's already doing it.

 

[Stellafane]

He's got his eyes on directing "The Da Vinci's Code II: The Return"

Nah, it's "The Da Vinci's Code II: Revenge of the Squibs."

 

[aggle-rithm]

It's my theory that CT'ers don't really want us to do anything, they're just getting off on "asking questions" and getting the occasional adult to pay a little attention to them.

The tragedy of it is, while they're harping on and on about "inconsistencies", there are REAL problems in the world that need to be addressed, not the least of which is a possible repeat of 9/11 on American soil -- this time with a completely unexpected modus operandi. Of course, they will find problems with the official story on this one, too...

 

[aggle-rithm]

Ha! Don't make me laugh. The FBI was told to put halt to the sept 11 investigation just a month after the attacks. Several commissioners of the sept 11 commission have resigned over their frustration with W. stonewalling and under-funding the investigation. They were given only $3 mil and 9 months(?) to start with. Later the commission would request for more fundings at $12 mil, but were only given $9 mil. Max Cleland, the most ouspoken of the ex-commissioners, have complained that they weren't given enough money and time to start with the investigation. Later after the report was released, he would eventually call it a total farce, which lead me to believe something is fishy about sept 11 itself. I think someone who was actually a part of the commission would have a lot more credibility to speak out against the sept 11 report than those who do.

How much money do you think it would take to investigate all the CT "evidence"? We've been doing it for several months now, and I would be willing to bet it hasn't cost anywhere near 12 million bucks. All takes to debunk the "free fall" claim, for instance, is a casual look at any video of the WTC collapse.

 

[Stellafane]

The tragedy of it is, while they're harping on and on about "inconsistencies", there are REAL problems in the world that need to be addressed, not the least of which is a possible repeat of 9/11 on American soil -- this time with a completely unexpected modus operandi. Of course, they will find problems with the official story on this one, too...

Yeah, that is a true tragedy, made worse by the fact that if these bozos are to be believed, then this country has nothing to worry about as far as foreign terrorism is concerned, it's our own government that we have to watch. So while our eyes are focused on stray pixels and blurry shadows and whether or not Rumsfeld ate breakfast on 9/11, terrorists are plotting the next attacks on US targets such as tunnels, bridges, and nuclear power plants.

The total sum of all the combined effort every CT'er has ever made on behalf of their "cause" fails to equal the contribution to society made by a 3-year old kid picking up a gum wrapper. What an obscene waste of time and energy.

 

[Manny]

The tragedy of it is, while they're harping on and on about "inconsistencies", there are REAL problems in the world that need to be addressed, not the least of which is a possible repeat of 9/11 on American soil -- this time with a completely unexpected modus operandi. Of course, they will find problems with the official story on this one, too...

Or even closer to home, unanswered questions about 9-11 itself. The NIST report on 7 WTC is due soon. As a person who inhabits tall office buildings and works for employers who like column-free space, I'm actually pretty intensely interested in precisely why it fell (I know generally how it fell, of course). What if the NIST report overlooks or downplays something important? Will structural engineers hold back criticism lest they be lumped in with idiots and terrorists like the Loosers? Probably not. I hope not. But what if there's a shy guy somewhere with just the right input which will make the next generation of skyscrapers just a little safer who doesn't speak up. Or what if he does speak up but his valid criticism is drowned out by a chorus of "controlled demolition!"

 

[Dr Adequate]

Could ANYTHING look worse on a resume?

 

[dubfan]

Shamefully stolen from a post at LGF:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

Any of this reasoning look or sound familiar?

 

[Pardalis]

Shamefully stolen from a post at LGF:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

Any of this reasoning look or sound familiar?

I bet they can find anomalies in my last year's family Christmas pictures!

 

[TjW]

Woah, are you suggesting that huge grey cloud of debris was in fact a cloud of foam?

He's not saying it is, and he's not saying it isn't: he's just asking questions...

 

[Gravy]

If you ever want to find out just what Loose Change means to Dylan Avery, all you've got to do is read his blog. It's all about advancing his film career by appearing at "events", lounging at poolside, and sipping lattes from his comfy chair at Starbucks.

Okay, I HAD to go there, and I HAD to look at the comments on the most recent post, and I HAD to see that a CT believes that a B-52 Stratofortress 8-engine jet bomber hit the Empire State Building in 1945.

No, I did all that by choice, and now I don't feel so good. I think the dumbness is coming through my computer monitor and eating my brain.

 

[hellaeon]

"Argue with fools and after a while no one can tell the difference..."

 

[CurtC]

If you ever want to find out just what Loose Change means to Dylan Avery, all you've got to do is read his blog.

April 29:

In fact, you're not going to hear from me much in the next 12 weeks or so. I have a lot of work to do.

May 4:

k, guys, I basically am off the internet until the 12th.

May 5:

Checkin in from a coffeehouse down the block from my screening... once this screening's over, we're basically off the radar for 12 weeks.

May 8:

Again, not really on the net until the 12th.

May 10:

Two nuggets for you:

OK, Dylan, go already!

 

[CptColumbo]

Someone who has an account to comment there needs to point out to MarkusQ that Ben Chertoff is not related to Michael Chertoff, and had never even heard of him until the PM article had already been written.

Where is this going on?

 

[chipmunk stew]

Where is this going on?

The Huffington Post

 

[CptColumbo]

Well you can tell them that they don't just have to take my word for it they can check for themselves.

MAIL:
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FAX:
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E-MAIL:
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That is if they're willing and able to do some of their own research.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Well you can tell them that they don't just have to take my word for it they can check for themselves.

MAIL:
POPULAR MECHANICS
810 Seventh Avenue, 6th Floor
New York, NY 10019

FAX:
212-586-5562

E-MAIL:
popularmechanics@hearst.com

That is if they're willing and able to do some of their own research.

Thanks. "Purym" wants to know why she should trust you over Alex Jones. I'll break it down for him/her.

 

[dubfan]

Stop the 9-11 Coverup. We're Serious

Just look at those hard-nosed investigators.

 

[Gravy]

Ha! Don't make me laugh. The FBI was told to put halt to the sept 11 investigation just a month after the attacks.

That's funny, someone must have forgotten to tell 4,000 FBI agents that. And someone must have forgotten to tell the full-time 9/11 FBI investigators the same thing in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006.

All of which has been covered here before. Geggy, I'll say it again: how many days in a row have you said something mind-blowingly stupid? Is reading CT sites working out for you? Are you seeing progress? Are you saying a smaller percentage of stupid things than when you started posting here?

Several people here have given you advice on how to improve your reasoning and ressearch skills. You have not taken that advice. Don't you want to do better? Do you really want to keep saying dumb things every day? You do it every day, geggy, and every day I tell you so.

Please answer this: why have you not changed your approach?

Max Cleland, the most ouspoken of the ex-commissioners, have complained that they weren't given enough money and time to start with the investigation. Later after the report was released, he would eventually call it a total farce, which lead me to believe something is fishy about sept 11 itself. I think someone who was actually a part of the commission would have a lot more credibility to speak out against the sept 11 report than those who do.

geggy, you do know that Max Cleland voiced his support of Bush's Iraq policy in ads and in campaign speeches, right? And you do know that he voted for the resolution to use force, right? And you do know that when he lost his election, and started speaking out against the administration's stonewalling of the 9/11 Commission, he was angry that Bush was trying to hide the fact that Saddam had no connection to 9/11, right? And you do know that Cleland does not have any disagreement with the Report's conclusion that 19 Arab terrorists working with al Qaeda committed the crimes of 9/11, right? And you do know that neither he, nor any other 9/11 commissioner, has accused anyone in the U.S. government of complicity in the attacks, right?

The commissioners who complained all had valid complaints. In order to get the information they wanted, they had to subpoena the White House, the Justice Department, the FAA, NORAD, etc. All these organizations are partly to blame for not averting the attacks. As bureaucracies do, they all tried to cover thair behinds rather than disclose information that might make them look bad. The Commission made "deals" with them in order to avoid time-wasting legal processes. It stinks that they had to do that. It stinks that Bush and Cheney testified together, and not under oath. It stinks that not all of the commissioners were allowed access to all the information. It stinks that election politics came into play at a time when bipartisanship should have been paramount. These are all serious problems that need fixing. None of that lends validity to your ridiculous theories.

You also have a serious problem that needs fixing. You refuse to learn from your mistakes.

This stuff may all be a game to you, but it isn't to me, and it bothers the hell out of me that you make the same mistakes every single day.

What are you going to do about that?