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And Nothing Heard My Scream

Jeff Corkern

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AND NOTHING HEARD MY SCREAM
by Jeffrey A. Corkern​

I walked along the bank of the Mississippi River in dense, confusing fog, rage at the emptiness of existence stabbing in my guts like a red-hot knife.

I picked my way through a formless, surreal landscape of slippery, shifting, shattered rocks, of all shapes and sizes, that rocked and tilted in sudden surprising directions when I stepped on them. Nothing was solid. All was chaotic and fluid. A broken ankle was a random stroke of chance away.

I was alone, as I had always been, always would be, my only security the heavy solidity of the forty-five in my pocket, banging against my hip.

I came upon a dark form, a stranger rendered faceless by the fog.

"Hello," he said. "Who are you?"

"I am Michael Stone. And you?"

"I am," the stranger replied, "Genius Skeptic. Did you know there are no souls?"

"Really?" I asked. "How do we know this?"

"The greatest scientific geniuses in all of history have assured us souls don’t exist."

"I have long suspected as much," I said. "Hmm. If there are no souls, the only rational thing to be is a sociopath."

Genius Skeptic smiled, a streak of white smeared against the blur.

"Such a silly woo," he said.

I looked around carefully. We were utterly alone. I raised my arm and pointed behind Genius Skeptic.

"Look," I said, "behind you. It is the great genius Dawkins himself."

Genius Skeptic turned his back to me to look. I drew the forty-five silent as a ghost, brought the muzzle to the side of his head, and squeezed the trigger. The crack of the round in the fog was flat and lifeless. Red and gray brains pattered like gentle raindrops over the Mississippi's surface. Genius Skeptic pitched forward onto the rocks.

I picked up the spent shell. I looted Genius Skeptic's body and eased him into the river.

A gator rose and drew him under, and Genius Skeptic disappeared, gone, wiped out, vanished, zeroed, ERASED, like he had never been.

I continued on my journey. The knife in my guts twisted and burned. Another faceless stranger rose in the fog.

"Hello," he said, "I am Sternly Rational."

"Hello," I said. "I am Michael Stone. Did you know there are no souls?"

"I do indeed," he said. "All smart and strong people know this. One must pity those who lack the strength to face it, who must take refuge from the Great Emptiness in the delusions of religion."

"My actions are free and unrestricted," I said, and drew my forty-five. "Since I have no immortal soul, I can escape the consequences of my actions."

"What?" Sternly Rational asked in a confused tone. "I don't understand."

"I may do as I wish," I said. "Without an immortal soul, the Universe began when I was born and will end when I die. I am therefore absolutely alone, a Universe of One." I aimed and fired. "Any feeling of connection I might have to the rest of humanity is strictly false and an illusion."

I missed my shot. Instead of smashing his head, I tore Sternly Rational's throat out, a red raw-meat wound like a great gaping mouth slashed open underneath his chin.

Sternly Rational put his hand to his throat and made a gargling sound of terrible surprise. He folded over onto the rocks making wet, bloody sounds.

It wasn't safe to approach. I backed away and sat down to wait while Sternly Rational twitched and jerked. I brooded over the implications and watched a red stream flow into a brown one, bloom out into the water, and fade away. When the flowing stopped, I rose, picked up the spent shell and looted Sternly Rational's body.

I rolled Sternly Rational's flaccid body to the river, tumbling it over the rocks. He went in without a splash.

Another gator rose and pulled him down in a swirl of water and Sternly Rational disappeared, gone, wiped out, vanished, zeroed, ERASED, like he had never been.

I continued my journey, the rage, the fire, building in my guts. The gators followed. Around me, the confusing fog began to lift.

Another faceless stranger appeared in my path. The gators sank out of sight to safety, like the perfect sociopaths they were, to await my gift.

"I am Michael Stone," I said, gripping the forty-five in my pocket. "There are no souls."

"I am Naïve Skeptic," the stranger replied. "Of course there are not. Such a transparently foolish, impossible notion, clearly born out of desperation and fear of death."

"People will soon finally realize what that means," I said. "Killing is smart. A rational thing to do to get what you want."

"Oh, fudge," Naïve Skeptic said. "People would never do such a horrible thing. People are nice."

"People are not nice," I said, and fired. Naïve Skeptic dropped with a little round hole in the front of his head and a big round hole in the back. "People are smart. 'Homo nice' is not what people are. People are Homo sapiens, Homo smart. That's what people are."

I looted Naïve Skeptic's body and dragged him to the river. The gators surfaced like ancient gray submarines, sank their teeth into Naïve Skeptic, and Naïve Skeptic disappeared, gone, wiped out, vanished, zeroed, ERASED, like he had never been.

The gators and I continued our journey. Hot-lava anger coursed through my bones. The fog continued to lift, patches of clear sunlight moving along the rocks.

The gators saw him before I did, submerging beneath the surface, leaving only a ripple behind to betray their presence.

This time, I could see his face, but did not wish to. There was nothing there of value to me.

"I am Michael Stone," I said. "There are no souls, and soon society will dissolve from within, in an overwhelming wave of slaughter, as the realization spreads this means killing is smart."

The stranger smiled in a superior fashion.

"I am Orange Skeptic," he said. "Oh, my friend, no, such an awful thing could never happen, because it would destroy the gene pool."

"The gene pool?" I asked. "Please explain."

"You are suffering from the delusion of free will," Orange Skeptic said. "What you think is consciousness and free will are actually only emergent properties of the non-linear, hypercomplex interactions between your brain cells, which themselves are controlled by the structure of their genetic makeup."

"And this means?"

"It is not what we want that controls our actions, my friend, but what our genes want," Orange Skeptic said. "We are only zombies, controlled by our genes!"

I squeezed the trigger, and Orange Skeptic became Blood-Red Skeptic.

"I had a gene I didn't like once," I said to the corpse, "so I changed it. If I can change my genes, I am controlling my genes. They surely are not controlling me. How incredibly stupid, my friend."

I looted Orange Skeptic's body and gave him to the river. The gators accepted my benison with open mouths. They pulled him under, and Orange Skeptic disappeared, gone, wiped out, vanished, zeroed, ERASED, like he had never been.

I knew I was close to the end of my journey. I and the gators continued on. The fire inside me bubbled and burned in anticipation. The fog lifted. All confusion was gone.

Another stranger, standing balanced on a rock contemplating the river.

"I am Michael Stone," I said. "I have no immortal soul, so the only rational thing I can be is a sociopath."

The stranger turned to face me. The Great Emptiness filled his eyes, like nothing I had ever seen.

"I am Brain-Filled Skeptic," he said. "Precisely true. I have understood that for a very long time now."

"You understand already? I’m not the first?"

"Not even the ten-thousand-and-first," Brain-Filled Skeptic said. "There are many of us who understand, hidden in the shadows and the darkness."

"Check my reasoning, so I can be sure it is right," I said. "Tell me the rest of it."

"Individuals will begin to kill, and kill, and kill as understanding spreads," Brain-Filled Skeptic said. "But that will only be the beginning. Your turn. Can you tell me what comes next, and why?"

"All of society’s members will become sociopaths," I said. "The smarter they are, the quicker they will turn. But sociopaths hate society by definition. A society of sociopaths is a contradiction in terms. Society is going to collapse, violently."

"Yes, we truly understand, you and I," Brain-Filled Skeptic said. "Technology has made it very, very easy to kill. A man can kill with the twitch of a finger on a trigger now. There will be nothing that can stop it. It will be every man for himself. The smart will survive only if they prepare and strike first."

"Tell me," I said, "why are you here?"

"Hunting," Brain-Filled Skeptic said, and moved, but I fired first, and turned Brain-Filled Skeptic into Brain-Less Skeptic, lying at the edge of the river with muddy water lapping into his empty skull.

The gators undulated to the river's edge to get him. I barely had time to loot Brain-Filled Skeptic's body and put the forty-five in his hand. It was a rich haul. He had been having a long, successful hunt. His experience had apparently been exactly like mine. There were many, many fools who couldn’t or wouldn’t understand.

I stepped back and let the gators have him. They yanked him down, and Brain-Filled Skeptic disappeared, gone, wiped out, vanished, zeroed, ERASED, like he had never been.

I tossed the spent shells into the river, severing all connection to the events here, to the past. I exhaled a long breath and took stock of my hour’s journey in the light of my new understanding.

The value gained: Three thousand, five hundred ninety-eight dollars.

The value lost: One forty-five, five shells.

The value of the humans killed: Zero.

I had shown a profit.

That was smart.

"If there are no souls, the only rational thing to be is a sociopath," I whispered to the empty, empty air. "How strange that this is so difficult to see."

But of course, the empty, empty air made no reply.

The anger boiled and erupted inside me with a volcano’s force, rose up through my guts and out my mouth in a primal scream of rage so crystalline and pure it threw my mind reeling and shaking into horror.

And nothing, nothing at all, heard my scream or felt my horror.

I came back from horror knowing what I had to do. I picked myself up and headed away from the river. I fingered the money in my hand. I knew what was coming.

I was going to need another forty-five.​

END​
 
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But not quite.

Two hours later, Micheal Stone was picked up by the police. In the interogation room he was heard to shout, "I have no immortal soul, the only rational thing to do is become a sociopath!" over and over again.

In the end they gave him the chair.

What a smart guy.
 
Except that there really is no escape from the consequences of one's action. Each individual person is guided by a moral code that stems from any number of things. Not having religion or a belief in an afterlife or a judging power, I still aim to be a good person because I want to see the world that way. I would rather help than harm.

Even outside of that, there are still consequences to my actions. If I hurt someone, I will at the least face moral consequences in the form of conscience. Someone somewhere around here had a link to an essay by Penn Jillette that clearly states my stance on this. If I hurt someone, it's that person I have to face, that person I have to ask forgiveness from. I can't simply put off until the end of my life to face up to my actions and I can't give myself an out by saying that the judging power has absolved me. The debt is not to that, but to whom you've hurt.

So souls are irrelevant to a discussion of morality. What is the moral code that an individual/community lives by.
 
I'm going to repeat what I said in another thread started by Jeff to which I never received a response:

There is nothing remotely rational about being a sociopath. And simply having a soul doesn't change the consequences of anything unless you also add an element of automatic post-death justice/punishment to that idea.

People choose to not be sociopaths, soul or not, because we value the very RATIONAL and LOGICAL notion of stability and order. Most laws are not based on whether or not a person has a soul, but on maintaining public order. Order and stability allow us to: grow enough food to feed everyone, live without fear of someone killing/stealing/assaulting us, cure diseases, make products, research technology, educate our children, etc. It is a simple matter of the extent to which the well-being of the collective influences the well-being of the indivual. All governments and laws are a give and take between the rights and desires of the people versus the overall well-being of society.

Moreover, not having a soul does not mean people cannot or should not empathize with each other. Rationally speaking. Empathy is a two-way street, hopefully.

In short, the logic that "not having a soul means everyone should be selfish and not care about anyone other than themself" is incorrect.
 
Actually, sociopaths can be quite rational since sociopathy is only an inability to feel empathy...

And not all sociopaths commit murder or crime for that matter, what happens to a sociopath that believes in God?

Sociopathy is also known in DSM-IV parlance as part of antisocial personality disorder, do all of the following things result from not believing in a supreme being?

1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
2. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
3. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
4. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others
5. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
6. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

I'm gonna have to update all of the research into all the structural theories of crime - if they only believed in God, there'd be no crime!

No, wait, that won't work. We've got Muslim extremists, Catholic church sex scandals, abortion clinic bombers - all believe in God yet all still kill or rape...

I guess if only I believed, then it would be all so simple
 
Surely if I have an immortal soul, that cannot be destroyed by any means, that would be incentive to do whatever I liked without fear of any consequence. If I can't be killed, why worry about societal norms and laws?

Unless this is going to turn into an enternal hellfire discussion.

The whole argument seems based on a beginners guide to game theory book.
 
And yet atheists are not sociopaths. Many are very ethical. And many woos are sociopaths, especially those who believe that God wants them to
kill.

How do you explain that?

And why are they letting max security prisoners on the Internet?

If you are in fact in an asylum, then I apologize for implying that you are in prison.

Religion can really mess people up.
 
I've always wanted to write a story about the Christian who came to the inevitable conclusion Christianity leads to, and travelled from church to church killing infants who had just been baptized.
 
Actually, sociopaths can be quite rational since sociopathy is only an inability to feel empathy...

And not all sociopaths commit murder or crime for that matter, what happens to a sociopath that believes in God?

Sociopathy is also known in DSM-IV parlance as part of antisocial personality disorder, do all of the following things result from not believing in a supreme being?

1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
2. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
3. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
4. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others
5. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
6. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

I'm gonna have to update all of the research into all the structural theories of crime - if they only believed in God, there'd be no crime!

No, wait, that won't work. We've got Muslim extremists, Catholic church sex scandals, abortion clinic bombers - all believe in God yet all still kill or rape...

I guess if only I believed, then it would be all so simple


Unfortunately, I've had a number of unpleasant experiences with a person who fits the description of a sociopath. This person was deceitful and manipulative, once told me that someone could kill his entire family and he wouldn’t care, and showed no remorse for a counterfeiting scheme he was involved in (and was subsequently put on probation for, or has he said, a slap on the wrist).

I learned that he was using hidden identities to manipulate and hurt people, and set about gathering evidence that he was behind it. I did so, and posted this information to the people he was manipulating. He did not take this kindly, and has since threatened me with revenge, going so far as to spoof my e-mail address (spoofing is when you use a program to make it look like the e-mail came from another e-mail address). The way he did it made it look like he had had gained entry into my, my girlfriend, and another friend’s account. I have since filed a complaint with my local authorities and with the FBI, and am doing my best to cut off contact with this individual. Heck, I’ve even thought about getting a gun to protect myself.

The person I mentioned above happens to believe (or so I’ve been to) that he is the hands of God. This suggests to me that a person can be a sociopath and still believe in God. And, if that is the case, then that pretty much blows that short story out of the water.

My suggestion- don’t associate with sociopaths period (regardless of whether they are atheist or theists).
 
I've always wanted to write a story about the Christian who came to the inevitable conclusion Christianity leads to, and travelled from church to church killing infants who had just been baptized.
And how is that the "inevitiable conclusion Christianity leads to"?
 
Meanwhile, across the river, lived a far more intelligent species which understood the benefits of society and cooperation, people who treated each other with kindness and respect.

Having run out of victims on the moron side of the river, occasionally a sociopath would make it past the crocodiles in an attempt to prey on humans instead. However, thanks to the division of labor made possible by society, the humans had a force of full-time mlitia who patrolled their bank of their river, shooting swimmers on sight.

The humans prospered and spread to cover the whole earth. Some believed in souls, some didn't, but enough believed in civil society that somehow, they made it work.

The Michael Stones of the world just couldn't compete, and soon became extinct.

THE END.
 
Charles Manson was also in the belief that he was "The One" choosen by God.
Or did he believe that he WAS God?:confused: Can never remember that one.
He did, however, have a facination with the book of Revelations and were a christian. Conclusion: Faith does not equal rational, lawabiding and moral behaviour.
 
And how is that the "inevitiable conclusion Christianity leads to"?

What he means is, that if you apply the same logic used here to the Christian ideaology, then you should kill everyone as soon as they reach the "saved" point (i.e.-as children or right after baptism/repentence/whatever), in order to insure they reach heaven. Sure, you'll burn in Hell forever, but you're making the ultimate sacrifice (your eternal soul) to insure the ultimate good (eternal life) for everyone else. Since this life, we're told repeatedly in Christianity, is not important (except to the extent that you earn your reward), there's no reason to stay on this earth any longer than absolutely necessary.

And, as offensive as Christians would find this idea, that's how atheists feel when presented with the sophmoric argument of the OP. Both arguments ignore many of the other factors and ideas invovled, and use a twisted logic to reach a completely inane conclusion. IMO, both arguments are simply a long, drawn out combination of ad hominems and strawmen.
 
And how is that the "inevitiable conclusion Christianity leads to"?

Some Christians believe that infants are innocents and that if you die innocent you are ensured a place in heaven. Therefore since there is nothing more important (for a Christian) then being with their God it would be better to ensure all infants are killed whilst they are still innocent so that there is no chance they will not go to heaven.

It's rather an old silly but fun argument .


(There is an extension to the argument that the person doing the killing would also go to heaven - since they are "Doing the Lord's work".)
 
AND NOTHING HEARD MY SCREAM​


by Jeffrey A. Corkern, edited by Odin​


I walked along the bank of the Mississippi River in dense, confusing fog, rage at the emptiness of existence stabbing in my guts like a red-hot knife.​



I picked my way through a formless, surreal landscape of slippery, shifting, shattered rocks, of all shapes and sizes, that rocked and tilted in sudden surprising directions when I stepped on them. Nothing was solid. All was chaotic and fluid. A broken ankle was a random stroke of chance away.​



I was alone, as I had always been, always would be, my only security the heavy solidity of the forty-five in my pocket, banging against my hip.​



I came upon a dark form, a stranger rendered faceless by the fog.​



"Hello," he said. "Who are you?"​



"I am Michael Stone. And you?"​



"I am," the stranger replied, "Genius Skeptic. Did you know there are no souls?"​



"Really?" I asked. "How do we know this?"​



"The greatest scientific geniuses in all of history have assured us souls don’t exist."​



"I have long suspected as much," I said. "Hmm. If there are no souls, the only rational thing to be is a sociopath."​



Genius Skeptic smiled, a streak of white smeared against the blur.​



"Such a silly woo," he said.​



I looked around carefully. We were utterly alone. I raised my arm and pointed behind Genius Skeptic.​



"Look," I said, "behind you. It is the great genius Dawkins himself."​



Genius Skeptic turned his back to me to look. I drew the forty-five silent as a ghost, brought the muzzle to the side of his head, and squeezed the trigger. The crack of the round in the fog was flat and lifeless. The bullet sailed through Genus Skeptic and carried on, leaving nothing to mark it's passing except for a few strands of straw, floating slowly downwards.​



The great genius Dawkins reached out, plucking the bullet from the air with the aid of his evil atheist powers.​


"Is this yours?" he asked.​





END



Also, even if thinking you have a soul prevents you being a sociopath, thats a reason why the belief in a soul should exist, not necessarily why the soul itself should.​
 
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This story truly frightens me.

It frightens me to think that there are actually people who believe that the only thing stopping everyone from killing each other is a fear of punishment.

Those who only do good things because of the promise of an eternal reward, and refrain from doing bad things because of a fear of an eternal punishment are intellectual cowards.

Is the OP saying that if he didn't believe in an 'immortal soul', he could justify murder?

Scary.
 

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