So the Universe just behaves funny then, eh?
sphenisc
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Since Mercutio said so in post #174.
Mojo
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The universe appears to behave consistently. The "laws of physics" are just our ongoing attempt to describe how it behaves. If we find that the universe isn't behaving as the "laws of physics" predict, then, as Mercutio said, we have to come up with new laws to describe this behaviour.So the Universe just behaves funny then, eh?
If the universe doesn't obey the "laws of physics", it's not the universe that there's a problem with.
No, I think it had more to do with profanity.
Are you asking me or telling me?
Well, it's either that or, anything is possible.
What?
If by this you mean, for instance, the wobble in Mercury's orbit that was not explained by Newton but was by Einstein, and is then an example of something that broke a law of physics, so the law had to be changed, then I did say that.
I do not think this is what either Iacchus or Belz were thinking of. In fact, I would require additional evidence before I would believe Iacchus is thinking at all.
Either that, or one or two folks around here a full of cr*p.
In that case, your comment "Perhaps this is why it used to be forbidden to utter God's name? Because it's merely a description of that which we cannot fully fathom?" was thoroughly unrelated to the comment it addressed. Not surprising.
If you have an answer, you have not produced it in nearly 10000 posts. I was asking you, but I was not expecting a coherent answer. Go ahead. Surprise me.
So I will take this as a "yes", then, you believe this by faith alone. You could have saved yourself several keystrokes.Well, it's either that or, anything is possible.
The evidence, though, is on Belz's side.
And what is matter and energy then, except for your account of something that didn't exist?
Flies love dung don't they?
So, what exactly would you build your house upon? A foundation made out of rock or, a foundation made out of sand? I would opt to go with that which is more solid and substantial myself.
Mojo
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Are you trying to use a metaphor for the popularity of your threads here?
No, just trying to illustrate that I can trade insults too.
Mojo
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If you could do that, at least you would be able to contribute something.
Belz...
Fiend God
One.
Iacchus said:So the Universe just behaves funny then, eh?
No it doesn't. When does it ever behave differently than usual ?
sphenisc said:
As Mercutio hinted, what I meant is that the "laws" of the universe, however we understand them, are always in place. We revise our theories, but the universe always behaves in the same way. Iacchus seems to imply otherwise.
Mercutio: I too, would like some evidence that Iacchus thinks, at all.
sphenisc
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What I mean is: Belz implies that it is not possible to not follow the laws of physics.
You imply that it is:
I'm interested to see if Belz
a) concedes that the movement of Mercury didn't follow the laws of physics.
or
b) argues that it didn't.
If b) then I suspect that this would require an argument against your 'descriptive' definition of the 'laws of physics' i.e. the laws of physics are 'discovered' rather than invented.
If so, then we'll get to the usual argument over definitions; and we can watch the thread decay into a blizzard of kittens.
Belz...
Fiend God
Well, Beelzebub IS the master of flies...
As you have been told countless times, Iacchus...go to a library. Get an elementary science book. Maybe Asimov's "Physics for children". Start slow; catch up to the grade-schoolers first, then Jr. High, then High School...
There is no incentive here for anyone to explain anything to you. Your record speaks for itself; in this thread alone, there have been at least three different topics (evolution, circularity, physical laws--there may be more) which you have had explained to you patiently numerous times, and yet here you are making the same ignorant statements. You are trolling, plain and simple, if you are maintaining your mask of ignorance after so much exposure to such good and patient explanations as some here have given you. For your sake, I hope you are trolling; the alternative is that you are somehow deficient in memory, understanding, or some other thinking capacity. For the rest of our sake, it matters not, so it costs nothing to hope you are merely a troll.
Your act was old a long time back, Iacchus. Take some time and read through your old threads; there is nothing in this thread that wasn't answered already in one of those. If you are truly interested in answers, they are there. If you are not, keep trolling, but know that we recognise you for what you are.
This is an outright lie.
You build on dreams, which you say are rock. You close your eyes and cover your ears when people ask you to try to poke holes in your "rock".
That's an ad hominem by the way.