U.S. Ambassador Stranded by Chavez Rally
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Are you surprised? Should anyone care? I'm not sure what to make of your post. Maybe Americans should take to the streets burning the Venezuelan flag?
No.
Maybe.
You may consider it simple news posted on the forum without any expressed opinion on the part of the submitter. It's your choice.
Playing hardball as someone else said before, could be one of their choices.
Huh? The guy went to a meeting. Ambassadors do that.
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Then I will make of your post that you, as yet, haven't expressed an opinion and this is just a knee-jerk response from some reactionaries.
Thanks.
The Ambassador also offered some words recently that may have worsened relations further.
We discussed one such example here yesterday in the following thread.
SHUT UP! Mister Embassador(s)
You’re correct. That is just what I said before.
How do you come to that conclusion? Isn't it also possible that Chavez could be behind it, or his internal or external friends or enemies?
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Yes, and I said it after you. I think we are on the same page but we will probably have to post a few more times to be certain.
Could be but then he or his friends could also be reactionaries.
But then whatever you think, or don't think, is fine with me. I'm not sure that the story merits much attention but then I could be wrong.
Not meaning this in a defensive way, but at this point, it isn't clear to me what you mean by "reactionary." What do you mean by it? For example, would you categorize the Ambassador or Bush and his friends as possible reactionaries?
Taken individually, most stories don’t merit much attention. I tend to see it as a tension that is building up, unnecessarily.
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One who reacts out of fear to people or ideas who threaten the status quo.
Possibly if they exhibit such behavior. I think I could make an argument that they are but I don't see them that way. However I recognize that I share common goals, values and sentiment so there is reason I might be blind to the behavior.
Yeah, this happens when two tribes are playing quién es más macho.
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It's kinda slow here, let's do it!
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Been tried didn't work.
Venezuela has a flag?
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Sure just remeber has 8 stars now rather than the 7 it had last month.
Some times I react out of fear or to protect something I believe in--I just can’t help it. Would you call me a possible reactionary? How about RandFan? Does RandFan ever react to protect something RandFan believes in?
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1.) I'm not above using rhetorical devices in discussions.
2.) My use of the word "reactionaries" in this case was not meant to be rhetorical.
3.) My use of the word "reactionaries" in this discussion was not meant to be pejorative.
4.) I absolutely have been a reactionary.
If you were not using the word in a negative sense, then why did you admit possible bias when you applied the same word to Bush? You seem to be saying that you are not blind to the behavior of Venezuelans, you may be blind to Bush's behavior, yet you are not blind to your own behavior.