ManonFire63
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Don't project your sins on me. You are not righteous or a good person in "Modern Liberalism."
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Don't project your sins on me. You are not righteous or a good person in "Modern Liberalism."
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Helen
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Judge not, lest ye be judged, ammirite?
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Andy_Ross
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If someone nicks your kit, you make sure you nick somebody else's.
Always be first in the queue when the grub's up and then eat it quick so you can go round and have some more.
Never volunteer.
Always look after number one.
If someone drops you in it, make sure you drop them in it.
Indeed:
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
ManonFire63
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Breaking the law in Torah may have been a death sentence.
There is Judgement, like Judging someone unto death. The wages of sin are death.
There is judgement as in vanity.
There is chastising and rebuking. To chastise and rebuke there was a standard. Did you understand the standard?
The standard at a University may have been "Don't cheat or plagiarize." Given someone cheated or plagiarized, and they replied back "judge not," it doesn't fit. Doesn't work. They just get kicked out.....or the school was corrupt and dishonorable.
Christianity is standards based. Someone was a fail or a pass. They were in darkness or the light of the Lord. (Ephesians 5:8) Jesus chastises and rebukes those he loves. Was someone.....missing the mark?
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As Jesus said it should continue to be to the end times.
(Paul - nah lets drop the hard to sell stuff)
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An incident at Brown University attracted some attention last Spring:
Given that the historical average for the midterm had been 65%-80%, he suspected cheating via AI, so he changed the rules so the final would be in-person only. A bunch of students immediately dropped the class and nine others didn't bother showing up for the final. Of the students who did show up for the final, none scored higher than they had on the midterm, and only two came within 10 points. Two students who scored 100 on the midterm got a zero on the final.
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Given that the historical average for the midterm had been 65%-80%, he suspected cheating via AI, so he changed the rules so the final would be in-person only. A bunch of students immediately dropped the class and nine others didn't bother showing up for the final. Of the students who did show up for the final, none scored higher than they had on the midterm, and only two came within 10 points. Two students who scored 100 on the midterm got a zero on the final.
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Lukraak_Sisser
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Sometimes the whole US university/college thing truly baffles me.
When I went to University we had an introduction week that focused on where the best places to eat/drink/party in the city were. And then we got given our rosters and lists of books to buy and where to turn up.
There were (and are) areas of student housing, but those are not tied to the Universities as such and the only times an ID was needed was when you needed to work in a weekend or enter restricted areas (like hazardous materials labs).
There were no social clubs or sport clubs associated with the University at all, the assumption being that if you want that you can join one you like in the city. The whole segregating students from the rest of a city is just alien here. Heck, even schools are just in the middle of cities, no gates, no passes or ids.
When I went to University we had an introduction week that focused on where the best places to eat/drink/party in the city were. And then we got given our rosters and lists of books to buy and where to turn up.
There were (and are) areas of student housing, but those are not tied to the Universities as such and the only times an ID was needed was when you needed to work in a weekend or enter restricted areas (like hazardous materials labs).
There were no social clubs or sport clubs associated with the University at all, the assumption being that if you want that you can join one you like in the city. The whole segregating students from the rest of a city is just alien here. Heck, even schools are just in the middle of cities, no gates, no passes or ids.
Helen
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Same here. And when I read about the US system, it sounds as if it is geared towards younger people, instead of adults (ish, you do have more growing ip to do at 18-19).
arthwollipot
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The thing about the American system that confuses me most are fraternities. Are they really like they are portrayed in the media?
Thermal
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If you mean the most raunchy portrayals of drunken debauchery imaginable that you can get away with in an R-rated movie... yeah, pretty realistic.
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arthwollipot
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I was actually thinking about summoning demons and performing cult rituals like in Buffy.
Thermal
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...sooooooo tempted to take a run with those last six words....
Thermal
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When my oldest went to law school, she chose a good one that happened to be in one of our more deadly cities. Shortly after getting her settled, I found campus police and said "need to keep my knucklehead alive. What are the rules?" And the brothers gave a very clear boundary of the streets surrounding the campus that students were not to cross. Like, you're on your own with your suicidal quest if you venture beyond the lines. And carry a backpack at all times. It's the 'I'm a student' passport that affords you safe travels. Seems town and campus PDs make it crystal clear to the local characters- ◊◊◊◊ with a student and it's your ass.
Are there really cities with universities like that? Even universities in the crappiest of cities in the UK, say Liverpool there are no such areas. Yes there are rough areas but that doesn't mean they are no-go zones. There are places in nearby Slough and High Wycombe that these days I may feel a tad vulnerable if I have to go there but if I was younger I wouldn't have given it a second's thought. And usually by rough people will mean more about the general look and feel rather than hotbeds of dangerous to the person criminality.
(As a university aged kid I lived in two areas that were notorious for squalor, violence against the person and property, one area was nationally known Moss Side, the area had a lot of students because housing was so cheap, but even there and back then it wasn't as dangerous as its reputation made it out to be.)
(As a university aged kid I lived in two areas that were notorious for squalor, violence against the person and property, one area was nationally known Moss Side, the area had a lot of students because housing was so cheap, but even there and back then it wasn't as dangerous as its reputation made it out to be.)
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SteveAitch
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I went to school in Moss Side - direct grammar RC school. Once got mugged in Alexandra Park by a gang of about 100 yobs, mainly from a nearby secondary modern school. The gang attack only happened once while I was at that school.
A strange area at the time - two grammar schools, a large YMCA with its own playing fields (now a small industrial estate), Alexandra Park (quite nice, we used to play Crown Green Bowls there in summer lunchtimes). And a lot of slum housing. The boozers and clubs were well worth avoiding in the evenings.
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My brother qas at Durham university, the third oldest in England after Oxford and Cambridge.
They like students to start their first year in university halls of residence before they find their own accommodation.
He was in the castle for his first term as he was a student at University College and went back to it for his final term. The university has an accomodation department that coordinates private landlords with students.
The actual departments and faculties are spread all over the city.
He says being in the castle was a bit like Hogwarts. Meals were in a huge refectory hall and you had to wear a gown for formal dinners.
It sits at the top of the old town next to the cathedral.
Durham university has 17 colleges.
They like students to start their first year in university halls of residence before they find their own accommodation.
He was in the castle for his first term as he was a student at University College and went back to it for his final term. The university has an accomodation department that coordinates private landlords with students.
The actual departments and faculties are spread all over the city.
He says being in the castle was a bit like Hogwarts. Meals were in a huge refectory hall and you had to wear a gown for formal dinners.
It sits at the top of the old town next to the cathedral.
Durham university has 17 colleges.