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WalMart Attacks Free-Speech

Can someone tell me what is wrong with WalMart?

WalMart started in Germany something like 5 years ago, but that didn't have any of the evil effects you seem to be talking about, so what is wrong?

Carn
 
Well, even if their logo WAS used, it falls under Fair Use--specifically, for parody.

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It's unlikely he will win on those grounds. It appears he is selling the items so Walmart can claim he is commercially benefiting from their trademark.

(ETA: Was selling.)
 
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Can someone tell me what is wrong with WalMart?

WalMart started in Germany something like 5 years ago, but that didn't have any of the evil effects you seem to be talking about, so what is wrong?

Carn

They can't get away with the business practices in Germany that they do in the US. Massively different labor laws.
 
Ok, that's possible, but what did they do?

Carn

Critics say many things about them. I'll list a few but don't mistake it for me giving a crap.

They pay low wages with few benifits in order to keep prices down
They keep the union out through '[firm]'arm tactics: if a store does unionize, they shut it down
They devistate local economies because mom and pop shops can't compete
They buy products produced with slave/child labor

These are just a few. I also heard they were in tight with various satanic churches...yada.
 
Critics say many things about them. I'll list a few but don't mistake it for me giving a crap.

They pay low wages with few benifits in order to keep prices down
They keep the union out through '[firm]'arm tactics: if a store does unionize, they shut it down
They devistate local economies because mom and pop shops can't compete
They buy products produced with slave/child labor

These are just a few. I also heard they were in tight with various satanic churches...yada.

That explains, why they had so little effect in Germany and actually fail to grow like they did elsewhere - ALDI and LIDL do this here since 30 years.

But i understand this strategy has far less negative effect in Germany due to various social welfare systems.

Carn
 
Personally, If it were some show like Family Guy, Drawn Together or South Park I wouldn't be annoyed because I know they don't take there own insults seriously and they were'nt making anybody " buy " their programmes in order to watch them.

To be fair, no one is "making" anyone buy anything. You can look at his t-shirts for free, if you want one for yourself, you can chose to buy one. But he doesn't make you do anything you don't want to do.
 
I know you may not necessarily agree with what the 'critics' say about Wal-mart, but still, I thought I'd address the points...

They pay low wages with few benifits in order to keep prices down

I find it ironic that people complain about both the low wages/benefits given to wal*mart employees, and the fact that Wal*mart tends to put 'mom and pop' stores out of business. After all, employees of those types of small business likely wouldn't be giving their employees huge salaries either.

It should also be pointed out that while Wal Mart earns huge profits, they are also a very large company, and thier profit per employee may actually be in line with other retailers.

http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists...stType=Company&uniqueId=S4HB&datatype=Company

They keep the union out through '[firm]'arm tactics: if a store does unionize, they shut it down

Perhaps. But then, I'm not a fan of unions myself. To me, unionization is a form of 'price fixing', something that would be illegal if done by any other group or organizaiton.

They devistate local economies because mom and pop shops can't compete

The thing is, 'mom and pop' stores and wal-mart are after different segments of the retail markets. People shop at wal-mart for low prices. If they weren't shopping at wal-mart, they'd be going to k-mart or target. Mom-and-pop stores cater to those people who want either A) more personal service, or B) service located closer to their home.

And while there may be some business that get negatively affected by Wal Mart, there may be others that actually do better.

http://www.be.wvu.edu/divecon/econ/sobel/WalMart/index.htm

Actually I think this cartoon says it best:

http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp09082004.shtml

They buy products produced with slave/child labor

I'm sure this has happened in the past with Wal*mart, and I'm sure it will happen in the future. However, I'm sure the same thing happens with every major retailer, so I don't see the fairness of blaming wal*mart over other (lets say) K-mart or Target. (Or Zellers up here in Canada.)
 
You could have saved a lot of typing and answered like this:

To address points 1 - 4:
- everyone else is doing it
 
Actually there is a way Walmart can win in a court case here. The same way Sony won over Bleems software emulators. Every time the case went to coourt Bleem won but Sony had far far deeper pockets and just kept appealing and going back to court until Bleem went bankrupt paying the lawyers bills.
 
Actually there is a way Walmart can win in a court case here. The same way Sony won over Bleems software emulators. Every time the case went to coourt Bleem won but Sony had far far deeper pockets and just kept appealing and going back to court until Bleem went bankrupt paying the lawyers bills.

I hate making new laws ... but if ever there was a need, it's for halting this type of 'legal' tactic. Of course, what lawyer is ever going to put forth such a proposal -- he'd be cutting his own throat. So much for ethics, eh?
 
That said, much as I loathe Wal-Mart, I find this guy's shirts to be tasteless, horribly offensive, and while I defend his right to make them I'd never buy one.

Well, of course I won't buy one from him; Wal-Mart sells them cheaper.
 

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