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The behaviour of UK police officers.
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It depends on what the wrong thing is.
"I'm sorry I didn't realise that term x was offensive" maybe needs a bit of retraining if that's a sincere response.
"I told a colleague that I wished sexual violence on her" has no excuse. It's bullying, clear sexual harassment, and indicative of someone who, as @smartcooky says, is utterly unsuited to holding a position of authority. This is what he said to a colleague. How does he behave to girls whom he finds annoying when he's on duty?
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I remember that and I did not and would not justify that use of force.
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I think before someone is sacked, that a course of behaviour needs to be proved, not just a one off that happened in the moment and is not accompanied by anything else.
I disagree.
There are some things that are always beyond the pale and that is one. The only exception would be extreme edge cases which would have involved extremely hurtful taunting by the policewoman, which didn't happen.
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I would discipline the person, with a fine, or demotion, but not the sack for a one off.
There's the problem right there. These people should be held to far higher standard than those of us who are unfortunate enough to be "policed" by them.
How many members of the public are charged with a petty, one off, crime? The words goose and gander spring to mind.
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No there are actions that warrant immediate dismissal and wishung sexual violence on a colleague is one of them. If nothing else, it's a giant red flag
Absolutely enormous red flag.
Police officers are in a position of trust and thus the public is entitled to expect that the officers can control themselves when they are in public, because failing to do so suggests they are worse when they are not easily identified
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But what if, after investigation, it is not a red flag and it was a one off?
I'm afraid it is a profession that comes with many restrictions, as is right when you have inherent powers over people's lives by being a member of the police.
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Say I shot someone and after investigation it was not a red flag and was a one off?
I think we have very different understandings of the phrase “red flag “
I think we have very different understandings of the phrase “red flag “
Please expand more on this "one off" concept. Drunk drivers, shoplifters, speeders and many more "one off" miscreants need to learn how it works, from an insider.
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A North Yorkshire Police officer has been sacked without notice after comparing a colleague's skin colour to chocolate bars
The officer, referred to as "Officer A" in misconduct proceedings, was found to have compared the colleague's skin colour to chocolate bars, using words to the effect of: "I can call you Bounty or coconut or Milky Way."
A misconduct panel also found that Officer A had remarked on the colleague's lack of a perceived tan when he returned from holiday
The following day, October 20, 2023, Officer A said that if another officer were a chocolate bar, he would be a Galaxy. The panel ruled this remark was racist.
A further allegation, that Officer A repeatedly compared the first colleague to chocolate bars between April 2022 and October 2023, was also found proven. However, the panel said there was insufficient evidence to make a finding on an allegation that Officer A made insulting comments about Ramadan.
The officer, referred to as "Officer A" in misconduct proceedings, was found to have compared the colleague's skin colour to chocolate bars, using words to the effect of: "I can call you Bounty or coconut or Milky Way."
A misconduct panel also found that Officer A had remarked on the colleague's lack of a perceived tan when he returned from holiday
The following day, October 20, 2023, Officer A said that if another officer were a chocolate bar, he would be a Galaxy. The panel ruled this remark was racist.
A further allegation, that Officer A repeatedly compared the first colleague to chocolate bars between April 2022 and October 2023, was also found proven. However, the panel said there was insufficient evidence to make a finding on an allegation that Officer A made insulting comments about Ramadan.
Yorkshire cop sacked for comparing colleagues to Bounty, Milky Way and Galaxy
Officer A from North Yorkshire Police was dismissed without notice
www.examinerlive.co.uk
Just another singular bad apple, this was historic, lessons have been learned...
It's also showing yet again exactly how woke the police have become and how prejudiced they have become against white British folk, sacking a good old copper for a few hurty words indeed!
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Just one in a series of unconnected bad apples some, as in Charing Cross police station, were coincidentally close colleagues.
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If someone commits a crime, it is the only time they have committed a crime, they admit it and apologise, then they get a lighter sentence. Sacking someone is not a light sentence. Fining them or demoting them would be.
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A North Yorkshire Police officer has been sacked without notice after comparing a colleague's skin colour to chocolate bars
The officer, referred to as "Officer A" in misconduct proceedings, was found to have compared the colleague's skin colour to chocolate bars, using words to the effect of: "I can call you Bounty or coconut or Milky Way."
A misconduct panel also found that Officer A had remarked on the colleague's lack of a perceived tan when he returned from holiday
The following day, October 20, 2023, Officer A said that if another officer were a chocolate bar, he would be a Galaxy. The panel ruled this remark was racist.
A further allegation, that Officer A repeatedly compared the first colleague to chocolate bars between April 2022 and October 2023, was also found proven. However, the panel said there was insufficient evidence to make a finding on an allegation that Officer A made insulting comments about Ramadan.
Yorkshire cop sacked for comparing colleagues to Bounty, Milky Way and Galaxy
Officer A from North Yorkshire Police was dismissed without noticewww.examinerlive.co.uk
He deserves the sack, because it was a persistent course of action.
But that's a different situation.
If I told a female colleague that I wished her to suffer sexual violence, I would almost certainly be immediately suspended from work, followed by being fired.
And I am not in a position of trust that police officers are in.