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[arthwollipot]

Greens leader Larissa Waters steps down due to illness

The Greens reveal the leader has been dealing with a pre-existing medical condition, which has worsened.

www.abc.net.au

 

[psionl0]

. . . gift . . .

Stubborn.

Do you really think that Albo and Taylor would survive if they did the same thing?

Probably not but my position would still be the same: What is the bottom line?

 

[lionking]

Stubborn.


Probably not but my position would still be the same: What is the bottom line?

You do realise that it doesn’t matter if you armed rob a bank of $1 or $1million, the sentence would be about the same. The bottom line is irrelevant, it’s the propriety of the transfer of money and the conflict of interest.

 

[NatalieSalat]

the episode of Yes, Minister with Charlie Umtali is great because it shows a non-white politicial player outsmarting Hacker and Sir Humph and getting them to let him buy their oil rigs with their money!

 

[psionl0]

You do realise that it doesn’t matter if you armed rob a bank of $1 or $1million

What a silly analogy. There was no "armed robbery" and I didn't mention amount.

"Bottom line" refers to whether the loan is more profitable than other forms of investment or not.

 

[lionking]

"Bottom line" refers to whether the loan is more profitable than other forms of investment or not.

Are you deliberately missing the obvious point? Party finances are not to be used in ways which benefit members. Hanson and Ashby are directly benefitting.

 

[psionl0]

Are you deliberately missing the obvious point? Party finances are not to be used in ways which benefit members. Hanson and Ashby are directly benefitting.

I thought that the "obvious point" was that according to you, this was a GIFT - never to be returned.

 

[lionking]

I thought that the "obvious point" was that according to you, this was a GIFT - never to be returned.

I’m certain it won’t be returned, but even more certain about the corrupt nature of Hanson and Ashby receiving an improper benefit from their party.

 

[lionking]

Here’s the thing, despite you professing opposition to ON, you continue to give them the benefit of the doubt. ON is the last party to deserve the benefit of the doubt.

 

[psionl0]

I’m certain it won’t be returned, but even more certain about the corrupt nature of Hanson and Ashby receiving an improper benefit from their party.

If they have done anything illegal then I would expect charges to follow shortly. But you haven't been discussing the legality of this case but the morality of it (and insisted that it is a "gift" just to make it sound worse).

I am just trying to be objective rather than let how I feel about the parties alter the true nature of their crimes.

Here’s the thing, despite you professing opposition to ON, you continue to give them the benefit of the doubt. ON is the last party to deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Of course, I don't support Albo's internet censorship so I must be favour of kiddie porn, I don't support the war on drugs so I must be a drug dealer and I don't use every pretext imaginable to condemn ON so I must be an ON supporter.

The truth is that there are NO good candidates or parties going into the next election. It will be such a hobson's choice that I am almost ready to cop the fine instead.

 

[arthwollipot]

We always vote for the parties we dislike the least.

 

[psionl0]

We always vote for the parties we dislike the least.

When it comes to a choice between parties that want to control everything we see/hear/say and Trumpist parties, it becomes a coin toss.

 

[arthwollipot]

When it becomes a choice between anyone and One Nation, not so much.

 

[psionl0]

When it becomes a choice between anyone and One Nation, not so much.

Still a coin toss considering who "anyone" is.

 

[arthwollipot]

Still a coin toss considering who "anyone" is.

Nope, not for me. One Nation go at the bottom, regardless of who goes on top. Maybe above Clive Palmer. Easiest call to make.

 

[Orphia Nay]

parties that want to control everything we see/hear/say

Name a party that wants that.

 

[lionking]

Name a party that wants that.

He fancies that it’s the ALP. Mainly because of its attempts to restrict children’s access to damaging social media.

The reality, of course, is that we are one of the most free and open countries in the world.

 

[psionl0]

Name a party that wants that.

There has been extensive discussion on Labor's "digital duty of care" bill on rhis thread.

 

[arthwollipot]

There has been extensive discussion on Labor's "digital duty of care" bill on rhis thread.

That's a very far cry from wanting to control everything we see/hear/say.

It's a typical righty talking point, in fact, the idea that introducing regulations is somehow equivalent to coercive control. It is, and always has been, bull ◊◊◊◊.

 

[psionl0]

That's a very far cry from wanting to control everything we see/hear/say.

It's a typical righty talking point, in fact, the idea that introducing regulations is somehow equivalent to coercive control. It is, and always has been, bull ◊◊◊◊.

How would you know? You posted enthusiastically in favour of the bill without reading a single word of the article you linked to.