Roger Ramjets
Philosopher
Which diseases has the CCP 'pursued development of' that they cannot control?
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alfaniner
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Researchers discover AI feels ‘pain’ and will harm humans to stop it
This links to Yahoo tech site, which I have never used but don't need a login to see it.
Also -- How soon will some antagonist country input a prompt "What's the best way to destroy country (x) and get away with it?" Actually, I'm pretty sure it's either been done or is being worked on at the moment.
This links to Yahoo tech site, which I have never used but don't need a login to see it.
Also -- How soon will some antagonist country input a prompt "What's the best way to destroy country (x) and get away with it?" Actually, I'm pretty sure it's either been done or is being worked on at the moment.
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Roger Ramjets
Philosopher
Evidence?
Roger Ramjets
Philosopher
Google's AI says "Historically, those who have "gotten away" with severely damaging a nation are often its own corrupt leaders". So, which country helped get Trump elected?
Another reminder that LLMs simply predict what word comes next based on 'training' data (ie. what they read on the internet). The answer will just be a 'consensus' of what's already out there.
Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
I'm not interested in listening to people whose whole careers are dependent on bigging up LLMs doing so. That is nothing but marketing.
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
You're right. I'm saying it's the wrong question.
I know what question I'm asking.
The Atheist
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I was talking to my major engineering client today and we had an in-depth discussion of how he's using AI.
He has two licences, from competing companies,m that cost him $5k/year.
To do a tender for a $10M job, as they have just completed, it would usually require at least a month to prepare it, check the numbers and deliver it to the developer. The total hours required would be in the vicinity of 200 hours at a cost of $250 per hour, so a neat fifty grand.
With AI, he has the details inputted - couple of hours - and the AI will return a full 300-page tender contract in 15 minutes. He then uploads that into the other AI to check for errors and continuity. Total time, about 2 or 3 hours paid work, so a saving of $49k minus the $10k spend on AI for a net saving of $39k, and of course, the $10k gets used again.
That's pretty good and helps productivity a lot, so he's delighted with it.
From a the AI commercial perspective, it's terrible. Given the development and data centre costs to support AI, there's no way those prices are creating an adequate return. Nobody's going to cut their own throat by pricing above anyone else, so I wouldn't be investing in them, but they clearly have strong commercial uses.
He has two licences, from competing companies,m that cost him $5k/year.
To do a tender for a $10M job, as they have just completed, it would usually require at least a month to prepare it, check the numbers and deliver it to the developer. The total hours required would be in the vicinity of 200 hours at a cost of $250 per hour, so a neat fifty grand.
With AI, he has the details inputted - couple of hours - and the AI will return a full 300-page tender contract in 15 minutes. He then uploads that into the other AI to check for errors and continuity. Total time, about 2 or 3 hours paid work, so a saving of $49k minus the $10k spend on AI for a net saving of $39k, and of course, the $10k gets used again.
That's pretty good and helps productivity a lot, so he's delighted with it.
From a the AI commercial perspective, it's terrible. Given the development and data centre costs to support AI, there's no way those prices are creating an adequate return. Nobody's going to cut their own throat by pricing above anyone else, so I wouldn't be investing in them, but they clearly have strong commercial uses.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
And I know what question I'm asking, and I'd still like an answer to it.
Dr.Sid
Philosopher
Define understanding ..
Plus of course the current AI companies are betting everyone's money on the current technology producing general intelligence, or as the marketing has it this week super intelligence.
Wudang
BOFH
All the hype about AI nearly causing war, immanentizing the eschaton etc are just BS to pull attention away from AIs screwing up more mendane tasks in very dangerous ways. E.g. screwing up medical transcripts etc.
"Never mind the small real dangers!!! Look at the big scarey dangers!!"
"Big scarey dangers are wild hyperbole"
<thump> "Well what about this dead cat on the table?"
www.theguardian.com
"Never mind the small real dangers!!! Look at the big scarey dangers!!"
"Big scarey dangers are wild hyperbole"
<thump> "Well what about this dead cat on the table?"
Doctors’ AI scribes get names of drugs and diagnoses wrong, NHS watchdog warns
Exclusive: Patients identify errors in consultation transcripts that are missed by GPs, Healthwatch England finds
www.theguardian.com
Frank Newgent
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I think you'd be criminally liable if you intentionally direct an AI to hack a website without authorization.
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Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
They're supplying both sides of the equation for the LLM companies, by "lending" them the money to buy Nvidia chipsets and then at the other end renting processing time from the LLM companies as user of last resort.
I bet Huang is ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ bullets that he can cash in his share options before this particular scheme collapses.
Gulliver Foyle
Philosopher
I'm betting that Kegsbreath's still angry that the operation was called off.
The Military's Bogus AI 'Almost Started a War' With China: Report
The U.S. military almost boarded a Chinese ship because of bogus intelligence produced by AI, CNN reports.www.rollingstone.com
Dr.Sid
Philosopher
nVidia is the only AI related company being in the black. He will be fine even if he doesn't cash in. He's fanning the flames all right though, no question about it.
dirtywick
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Treasury Secretary Says OpenAI Managers Are to Blame for Hugging Face Breach, Not AI Agents
So should we start holding OpenAI accountable for it or are we waiting for something?
gizmodo.com
for some reason treasury secretary scott bessent says openai managers should be held accountable for hack, not agents
either way it seems a better regulatory framework is needed, whether it’s better controls or stronger accountability
Ziggurat
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Oh, I don't know. I'd say that the memory manufacturers and TSMC should qualify as "AI related", and they seem to be doing well.
Problem for them is where are these GPUs? We know they are not in datacentres at the moment since the "AI" datacentres haven't come on line, so that means they are in a warehouse. Have they even left nVidia's warehouses?
They are the ones that are genuinely making very good profits.