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"Common sense"? Your favorite definition/clarification?

I don't understand all this knee jerk hatred for normal people normally being smart about things.

Things like, don't commit more than one crime at a time. Don't turn a misdemeanor into a felony. Etc. Lots of stuff that really does go without saying. Lots of stuff that really does merit a smack on the head and a "what the hell were you thinking" when someone does it.

But no, instead we have this thread, where people who value common sense must be stupid and/or wrong, or don't even exist in appreciable numbers. Seems like every year this becomes less about critical thinking and more about deep-seated hatred of humanity across the board.
 
"That which would be apparent to the reasonable man on the Clapham Omnibus"
Those are two different people. "The man on the Clapham Omnibus" is someone supposed to hold opinions reflecting those of the general public, while the "Reasonable Man", well:
This noble creature stands in singular contrast to his kinsman the Economic Man, whose every action is prompted by the single spur of selfish advantage and directed to the single end of monetary gain. The Reasonable Man is always thinking of others; prudence is his guide, and ‘Safety First’, if I may borrow a contemporary catchword, is his rule of life. All solid virtues are his, save only that peculiar quality by which the affection of other men is won. For it will not be pretended that socially he is much less objectionable than the Economic Man. Though any given example of his behaviour must command our admiration, when taken in the mass his acts create a very different set of impressions. He is one who invariably looks where he is going, and is careful to examine the immediate foreground before he executes a leap or bound; who neither star-gazes nor is lost in meditation when approaching trap-doors or the margin of a dock; who records in every case upon the counterfoils of cheques such ample details as are desirable, scrupulously substitutes the word ‘Order’ for the word ‘Bearer’, crosses the instrument ‘a/c Payee only’, and registers the package in which it is despatched; who never mounts a moving omnibus, and does not alight from any car while the train is in motion; who investigates exhaustively the bona fides of every mendicant before distributing alms, and will inform himself of the history and habits of a dog before administering a caress; who believes no gossip, nor repeats it, without firm basis for believing it to be true; who never drives his ball till those in front of him have definitely vacated the putting-green which is his own objective; who never from one year’s end to another makes an excessive demand upon his wife, his neighbours, his servants, his ox, or his ass; who in the way of business looks only for that narrow margin of profit which twelve men such as himself would reckon to be ‘fair’, contemplates his fellow-merchants, their agents, and their goods, with that degree of suspicion and distrust which the law deems admirable; who never swears, gambles, or loses his temper; who uses nothing except in moderation, and even while he flogs his child is meditating only on the golden mean. Devoid, in short, of any human weakness, with not one single saving vice, sans prejudice, procrastination, ill-nature, avarice, and absence of mind, as careful for his own safety as he is for that of others, this excellent but odious character stands like a monument in our Courts of Justice, vainly appealing to his fellow-citizens to order their lives after his own example.

Fardell v Potts (1924) Herbert's Misleading Cases in the Common Law 8
 
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The thing is, it's called common sense, not common reasoning or intelligence. It's more like an appeal to popularity peppered with an appeal to divination. "Any half wit would agree with me on this without arguing."
 
I don't understand all this knee jerk hatred for normal people normally being smart about things.

Things like, don't commit more than one crime at a time. Don't turn a misdemeanor into a felony. Etc. Lots of stuff that really does go without saying. Lots of stuff that really does merit a smack on the head and a "what the hell were you thinking" when someone does it.

But no, instead we have this thread, where people who value common sense must be stupid and/or wrong, or don't even exist in appreciable numbers. Seems like every year this becomes less about critical thinking and more about deep-seated hatred of humanity across the board.
I guess it's just not that common for people here to be doing crimes.
 
"Common sense" is a way of saying that anyone who doesn't agree must be an idiot. It's also a way to identify tribal affiliation, although that part is hidden. In the latter case, it's something like "people like us believe this" and if you don't, you must not be one of us. The second interpretation is usually political, but can also function in any in group/out group situation.

It's a social enforcement mechanism masquerading as an appeal to logic.


If we're talking about Thomas Paine: I still like his writing, but The Age of Reason I and II are vastly superior to Common Sense, despite the fact that Common Sense was associated with the US revolution. And Paine's intended meaning in that title isn't consistent with the common usage of the term today. It was more like "let's look at the obvious things that the usual conversations ignore." So he was basically rejecting the default framing by breaking it down into batches of easy-to-understand minutiae that he assumed that anyone could handle.... which is actually his writing style in a nutshell.
 
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Every time I'm going to do a crime, I weigh the time I'm going to do for that crime, and then I don't do it.

Man do I have common sense, or what.
While that makes perfectly common sense at one level, I weigh out how many crimes I have commited (intentionally and otherwise), and see I have done no time at all for them. Things that I haven't actually done have bagged me some time in lockup. So i see under the sun that the race is not to the swift, and all that.
 
"Common sense" is a way of saying that anyone who doesn't agree must be an idiot. It's also a way to identify tribal affiliation, although that part is hidden. In the latter case, it's something like "people like us believe this" and if you don't, you must not be one of us. The second interpretation is usually political, but can also function in any in group/out group situation.
Agreed. True common sense: don't stick your hand into fire, you'll get burned. Things claimed to be common sense but aren't: vote for X because otherwise everything will be a disaster.
 
And it is just common sense that the Sun goes around the Earth.
That's the thing- for practical.intents and purposes, it does. We still talk about sunrises and sunsets. We think of the earth as two dimensional, not calculating the arc of the globe into a drive to the grocery store. Common sense can be painfully wrong when it feels like it. That's part of its charm.
 
"Common sense" is a way of saying that anyone who doesn't agree must be an idiot. It's also a way to identify tribal affiliation, although that part is hidden. In the latter case, it's something like "people like us believe this" and if you don't, you must not be one of us. The second interpretation is usually political, but can also function in any in group/out group situation.

It's a social enforcement mechanism masquerading as an appeal to logic.
I've never seen a more overthought and overwrought social analysis of a common idiom.

What am I saying? Of course I have.
 
"Common sense" is a way of saying that anyone who doesn't agree must be an idiot. It's also a way to identify tribal affiliation, although that part is hidden. In the latter case, it's something like "people like us believe this" and if you don't, you must not be one of us. The second interpretation is usually political, but can also function in any in group/out group situation.

It's a social enforcement mechanism masquerading as an appeal to logic.
Definition of:- Common Sense
the basic level of practical knowledge and judgment that we all need to help us live in a reasonable and safe way:
Example: - Anyone with any common sense would have known what to do.

Nothing to do with politics, not social enforcement, not an appeal to logic.
 
Definition of:- Common Sense
the basic level of practical knowledge and judgment that we all need to help us live in a reasonable and safe way:
Example: - Anyone with any common sense would have known what to do.

Nothing to do with politics, not social enforcement, not an appeal to logic.
It is frequently used to describe ideas that are clear, simple and wrong. Maybe that's what's being discussed here.
 
It is frequently used to describe ideas that are clear, simple and wrong. Maybe that's what's being discussed here.
You mean misused.

The OP says "(good) sense isn't common.", implying that common sense isn't good and good sense is rare. Neither statement is true.

Common sense generally is good sense, because if it wasn't it would have no utility.
 
Common Sense as an argument is definitionally a fallacy.
It is almost always used out of intellectual laziness.

You can substitute it with "if you think about it", which is more honest, as it queries only the other person, not a faceless multitude I declare to have the same beliefs as me.
 

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