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Cont: The Russian Invasion of Ukraine part 9

theprestige said:
"The best 12 gauge for drones" in a YouTube video doesn't seem to translate to "shotguns are a game changer on the drone battlefield."

I'll believe shotguns have a place in drone warfare doctrine when I hear it from Magyar's Birds, Skala Regiment, or the 5th Azov Corps.
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I think the video shows how ineffective a shotgun would be without specialized development.
It's something most of the worlds arms manufacturers are working on, developing effective small arms systems.
I think it will involve active and intelligent sighting systems more than particular ammunition.
An effective anti drone small arms system will need a projectile with as velocity, energy and penetrating power as a 5.56 to stand a chance of killing a drone. What will be the key will be the rifle mounted computerised sights and sensors that put the rounds on target.
 
In other news, it appears Drumpf has finally managed to endear himself to his daddy putin, to the point where putin lets him ghostwrite answers to interview questions (this one being a simple question of how much an apple costs in Kamchatka)!

“We’re moving away from macroeconomics now. How much might a kilogram of apples cost somewhere in Kamchatka? That is an important indicator — how much a kilogram of apples costs — but something else is even more important: how to make the standard and cost of living more equal across different regions of the Russian Federation.

That is what we are striving for. That, in fact, is our goal — to ensure that the incomes of all citizens and, most importantly, their ability to enjoy all the benefits of civilization, including in economic terms, are equal for all families and all citizens of the Russian Federation.

There are still certain problems here that do not yet allow us to reach that goal.”

He must be so proud.

(In case it needs to be said: I don't think Drumpf actually writes putin's answers.)
 
Andy_Ross said:
I am very skeptical that this will be of sny use st all or even work.
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I may be wrong about pre-shaped fragments, come to that. Supposedly company demos against
actual drones gave good satisfaction; as inventors' demos often do.

Howsomever, I'm capable of being convinced IF the bullets don't shatter at less than the advertised
150 meters, because that means the wee fragments will deploy at near-muzzle velocity, rather than losing
velocity and scattering the way shotgun pellets must. (Until somebody comes
up with a shotgun projectile that delays bursting. Proximity fuse? Anyone?)
 
sackett said:
I may be wrong about pre-shaped fragments, come to that. Supposedly company demos against
actual drones gave good satisfaction; as inventors' demos often do.

Howsomever, I'm capable of being convinced IF the bullets don't shatter at less than the advertised
150 meters, because that means the wee fragments will deploy at near-muzzle velocity, rather than losing
velocity and scattering the way shotgun pellets must. (Until somebody comes
up with a shotgun projectile that delays bursting. Proximity fuse? Anyone?)
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What drones were they testing against though? I can't see them having enough energy to do anything.
 
Andy_Ross said:
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com%2Fpost%2F3mv46hnidug2n
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When will Trump under-◊◊◊◊◊◊◊-stand that Trump isn't the one making the deals. Ukraine is becoming less, and less dependent on the US for things. Sure they rely on the US for intelligence, some weapons, and the like, but they aren't nearly as reliant on the US as they were 2 years ago. Trump can't just bully Ukraine into accepting a deal that Trump's team negotiated. Putin and Trump can finger massage each others egos as much as they want but unless Ukraine gets a fair shake there is no obligation for them to listen to Trump.
 
plague311 said:
When will Trump under-◊◊◊◊◊◊◊-stand that Trump isn't the one making the deals.
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Never. He will never understand this. Even understanding, he would never care.

The real question is when people will stop centering Trump in the Russia-Ukraine war, just because it's been a week and he's trying to get centered again.
 
icerat said:
Happy 1.5 million day!
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Seems like it was just a year ago when they crossed the 1 million mark.

Oh wait, it was just a year ago:

kookbreaker

Cont: Post in thread 'The Russian Invasion of Ukraine part 9'

Russian casualties have crossed the line to 1 million.

www.euronews.com

Russian troop losses in Ukraine surpass the 1 million mark, Kyiv says

The General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces reported on Thursday that Russia has lost over 1 million troops in Ukraine since the beginning of its full-scale invasion. Kyiv says the 1 million mark is not just a statistic, but "a symbol of resistance and resilience". #EuropeNews
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Although it is the Ukrainians doing the counting here, their numbers haven't exactly been laughable.
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The Russian army is unable to effectively deploy its weapons in the Oleksandrivka sector due to the large number of Ukrainian FPV drones and is being forced to restrict its use of military equipment.

This was stated in an interview with Ukrinform by Serhii Kolesnychenko, an officer with the communications section of the 148th Separate Zhytomyr Artillery Brigade of the Ukrainian Air Assault Forces.

“The enemy has enough weapons to conduct intensive offensive operations. They have artillery, armored vehicles and a large number of unmanned systems. At the same time, they face difficulties in using these weapons effectively. Because the battlefield is saturated with Ukrainian FPV drones, the enemy is forced to limit the use of equipment that cannot reach the line of contact within 15 kilometers,” Kolesnychenko said.

 
Even by the standards of Russian recruitment corruption this is a grim thread.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2097772812765188334

ChrisO_wiki
@ChrisO_wiki
1/ A gang of 'black recruiters' in Russia has been arrested for spiking men's drinks with drugs, kidnapping them, selling them to the army, stealing their money and emptying their bank accounts, and marrying them off to 'black widows' to steal their death benefits. ⬇️
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Ukraine have attacked and shut down the Ryazan refinery again.

Following a drone attack on September 6, the Ryazan Oil Refinery, owned by Rosneft, ceased operations.

According to the agency’s sources, the Ryazan refinery’s main unit, AVT-6, as well as another major unit, AVT-4, were shut down following the attack.

It is noted that AVT-6, which, according to the sources, caught fire during the attack, is capable of refining 8 million metric tons of crude oil per year (about 160,000 barrels per day), which accounts for nearly half of the refinery’s capacity.

According to the publication, the AVT-4 unit can process 4 million metric tons of crude oil per year.

The plant’s other main unit, AVT-3, has been undergoing maintenance since mid-May.

 
Andy_Ross said:
Or someone in the squad loaded with a specialist ammunition that can switch to standard.
Or use something based on the Knights Armament Masterkey.
One of these was featured in the Predator movie so they have been around for a while.
Something more slimline and integrated could be developed

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More recently the maul which can be used as a standalone shotgun or attach to a rifle. No idea of its efficacy against a drone.
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MAUL (shotgun) - Wikipedia

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