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Merged Arday life and death

It was some of Arday's students' theses. Are you able to specifically articulate - with reference to other Humanities and Social Sciences - why you disapprove of autoethnographies? Please try to avoid facile terms such as 'I don't find them valid in any academic discipline' or perhaps explain why your opinion trumps that of Cambridge University's. I am trying to understand your reasoning. Hopefully, it doesn't run along the same lines as those here who believe Sociology is, 'wokerati' rubbish and, 'an easy subject, not hard like what Chemistry is'.
Well, you're the person who thinks that popular songs are not a suitable subject for academic study, such that a book about them (published in a 42 book series called "Routledge Research in Race and Ethnicity") must be "geared towards 'neurodivergent' young adults."
 
Are you able to specifically articulate - with reference to other Humanities and Social Sciences - why you disapprove of autoethnographies?
Do you know what an autoethnography is? I want to establish what baseline I'm working with here.
 
Well, you're the person who thinks that popular songs are not a suitable subject for academic study, such that a book about them (published in a 42 book series called "Routledge Research in Race and Ethnicity") must be "geared towards 'neurodivergent' young adults."

If your read the 'sample' for

We See Things They’ll Never See: Love, Hope, and Neurodiversity

You'll understand why I came to conclude it must be "geared towards 'neurodivergent' young adults."
 
I was filling in the gaps in my hbomberguy experience, by watching his video essay Vaccines and Autism: A Measured Response. This is a bit of a journalistic dive into the origins of the MMR vaccine ~ autism myth, and the man who authored it.

In the segment, "Andrew Wakefield is a Lying Conman Who Wanted Your Money" (which starts at 36:22), Harris recounts a narrative that will be familiar to those following the Arday Affair: Academic publishes fake claims, gets favorable attention from the media, becomes the focus of investigative journalism, and immediately threatens the journalist with legal action if he doesn't back off.

Of course, in Wakefield's case, it was all because he'd just patented an individual measles vaccine method, and he was a lying conman who wanted your money.

Looking at the Arday Affair through the lens of the Wakefield Affair puts Arday's claims and behavior into a very interesting context. Though, to be fair, most people were able to contextualize it properly even without the Wakefield example to guide them.
 
Then it should be obvious what the problem with them is. But I'll hold your hand since you need the help. At its core, the main problem is sampling. Autoethnographies are not random samples, they are the epitome of a self-selected sample. Not just a self-selected sample of the person whose life is being examined, but what aspects of their life are examined as well. And that's even if we ignore the possibility that the author is lying (which is rather relevant in the case of Arday). Everything about an autoethnography can be tailored to push a specific narrative or ideologically driven pre-determined conclusion. Nothing about them is conducive to actual objective analysis of anything.
 
Then it should be obvious what the problem with them is. But I'll hold your hand since you need the help. At its core, the main problem is sampling. Autoethnographies are not random samples, they are the epitome of a self-selected sample. Not just a self-selected sample of the person whose life is being examined, but what aspects of their life are examined as well. And that's even if we ignore the possibility that the author is lying (which is rather relevant in the case of Arday). Everything about an autoethnography can be tailored to push a specific narrative or ideologically driven pre-determined conclusion. Nothing about them is conducive to actual objective analysis of anything.
Do you think English Literature is a valid discipline?
 
It was some of Arday's students' theses. Are you able to specifically articulate - with reference to other Humanities and Social Sciences - why you disapprove of autoethnographies? Please try to avoid facile terms such as 'I don't find them valid in any academic discipline' or perhaps explain why your opinion trumps that of Cambridge University's. I am trying to understand your reasoning. Hopefully, it doesn't run along the same lines as those here who believe Sociology is, 'wokerati' rubbish and, 'an easy subject, not hard like what Chemistry is'.
Autoethnography makes the researcher the subject of the research. This is almost universally agreed to be a bad thing.

A lawyer shouldn't represent themselves.

A physician shouldn't treat themselves.

A psychologist shouldn't administer their own therapy.

An ethnographer should not research their own ethnographical experience.

At best, it can only tell them about themselves. It should never be presented as representative of a larger group or body of knowledge. That the Humanities and Social Sciences allow researchers to be their own research subjects doesn't elevate the practice, it degrades the entire field. It's exactly this kind of perverted value system that causes people to denigrate H&SS as "soft" sciences, and disparage them relative to the STEM fields. I would even go so far as to argue that once you admit autoethnography and other forms of academic self-dealing, your field is no longer a science at all. It's just soft. In the head.

It should also not go unmentioned that in Arday's case we have a fabulist endorsing the practice. Because of course he is. Being able to reframe your tall tales as valid lived experience has to be some kind of holy grail for fabulists.
 
Autoethnography makes the researcher the subject of the research. This is almost universally agreed to be a bad thing.

A lawyer shouldn't represent themselves.

A physician shouldn't treat themselves.

A psychologist shouldn't administer their own therapy.

An ethnographer should not research their own ethnographical experience.

At best, it can only tell them about themselves. It should never be presented as representative of a larger group or body of knowledge. That the Humanities and Social Sciences allow researchers to be their own research subjects doesn't elevate the practice, it degrades the entire field. It's exactly this kind of perverted value system that causes people to denigrate H&SS as "soft" sciences, and disparage them relative to the STEM fields. I would even go so far as to argue that once you admit autoethnography and other forms of academic self-dealing, your field is no longer a science at all. It's just soft. In the head.

It should also not go unmentioned that in Arday's case we have a fabulist endorsing the practice. Because of course he is. Being able to reframe your tall tales as valid lived experience has to be some kind of holy grail for fabulists.
And do you think there is a place in academia for works such as John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress or, perhaps, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African (1789)?
 
It's a valid discipline, but it's not a scientific or systematically empirical discipline.
Unfortunately, you can't put human beings in a laboratory like laboratory rats to assess their human condition. As long as the thesis cross-references other works and sociological theory, it is a useful tool. Research should not have intellectual boundaries. If someone wants to research growing up in Toxteth then why shouldn't they?
 
Unfortunately, you can't put human beings in a laboratory like laboratory rats to assess their human condition. As long as the thesis cross-references other works and sociological theory, it is a useful tool. Research should not have intellectual boundaries. If someone wants to research growing up in Toxteth then why shouldn't they?
They can't research growing up in Toxteth by growing up in Toxteth. All they can do is report their own experience of growing up in Toxteth. It's for others to do the research.
 
Unfortunately, you can't put human beings in a laboratory like laboratory rats to assess their human condition.
You actually can, and people routinely do. You just need to run the experiment past an IRB first. Which, incidentally, Arday didn't do for the studies he claimed to have done. Plus, laboratory studies aren't the only way to study people or any other animal. Observational studies happen all the time, and when well designed they can be incredibly useful. But autoethnographies are not valid observational studies.
As long as the thesis cross-references other works and sociological theory, it is a useful tool.
It's a useful tool for inflating your publication count, sure. That's why it's gained such popularity. And cross referencing other works doesn't mean jack ◊◊◊◊ if the underlying work you're doing is worthless.
Research should not have intellectual boundaries.
Research should have rigor. Autoethnographies do not.
If someone wants to research growing up in Toxteth then why shouldn't they?
No one objects to researching growing up in Toxteth. But recounting your own personal life isn't a rigorous way to do that. If you actually want to research growing up on Toxteth, you could do things like study income distributions in the area, look at educational achievements of students from the local schools, etc. And you could do all of that with rigor too.

Arday didn't do any of that.
 
You tell me. If you have an argument to make along those lines, make it.
I once did a course which, on paper seemed incredibly 'woke': French feminist Hélène Cixous, Angela Carter, Virginia Woolf (re cross-dressing Orlando), etc., together with a whole truckload of 'post'colonialist' writers such as Anita Desai, Janet Frame (who writes of her first hand experiences in mental hospitals in NZ), etc., some truly weird and wacky stuff thrown in, and do you know what? It was one of the most mind expanding courses I have ever been on, and certainly not worthless, 'easy' or not as 'not real like Chemistry'.
 
You actually can, and people routinely do. You just need to run the experiment past an IRB first. Which, incidentally, Arday didn't do for the studies he claimed to have done. Plus, laboratory studies aren't the only way to study people or any other animal. Observational studies happen all the time, and when well designed they can be incredibly useful. But autoethnographies are not valid observational studies.

It's a useful tool for inflating your publication count, sure. That's why it's gained such popularity. And cross referencing other works doesn't mean jack ◊◊◊◊ if the underlying work you're doing is worthless.

Research should have rigor. Autoethnographies do not.

No one objects to researching growing up in Toxteth. But recounting your own personal life isn't a rigorous way to do that. If you actually want to research growing up on Toxteth, you could do things like study income distributions in the area, look at educational achievements of students from the local schools, etc. And you could do all of that with rigor too.

Arday didn't do any of that.

AIUI it was not about their 'own personal life' but about social interactions with the local police and wider communities. It was structured and approved in advance by Cambridge Uni. Fully superivised, including viva. Your opinion seems to be little more than snobbery to try to explain your prejudice against Sociology as taught by Arday. It's rationalisation because a sociological study of police and local communities interactions can definitely help in social policy making for local councils and social workers, etc. It gives other students a body of work to build on.
 
And do you think there is a place in academia for works such as John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress or, perhaps, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African (1789)?
Sure, there's a place in academia for that work, as something to be studied. Which it is. But it does not itself constitute a piece of academic literature. Do you understand the distinction? Because it's important.

Interestingly enough, one of the topics of study of that book is whether and how much of it might be fabricated. So I will accept that studying Arday's fabulism is a valid topic for academia.
 

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