Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

[Steve]

Wait, is it currently suspicious that they did take photos of each other or they didn't? It seems to have flipped a couple of times.

Both, I believe.

 

[SpitfireIX]

But, but, but, but Purdue is located within the state of Indiana, which is one of the states carried by Nixon in 1972!

If that isn't a smoking gun, then @Vixen doesn't know what is.

Oh, you haven't even scratched the surface. Armstrong, Gus Grissom, and Gene Cernan all went to Purdue. Plus, all those intrepid twoofers know that the Civil Engineering and Computer Science departments are complicit in hiding the truth about the September 11 attacks. And Purdue financed Amelia Earhart's final flight.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Both, I believe.

Schrodinger's suspicious photos..

 

[Reformed Offlian]

I don't buy into the idea that anyone is all "buttercups and roses". Truth is, Buzz had a nasty side, too. Running into his bosses' offices berating them about their not selecting him as Commander instead of Armstrong. By all accounts he really kicked up a stink. Only took one lousy pic of Armstrong. Yeah, Hollywood loves him because he's the consummate actor.

Why would Aldrin care if the missions weren't real?

 

[bknight]

I don't buy into the idea that anyone is all "buttercups and roses". Truth is, Buzz had a nasty side, too. Running into his bosses' offices berating them about their not selecting him as Commander instead of Armstrong. By all accounts he really kicked up a stink. Only took one lousy pic of Armstrong. Yeah, Hollywood loves him because he's the consummate actor.

From his photographic experience with the Hasselblad camera that he practiced with, I believe his picture taking was deliberately minimized.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Oh, you haven't even scratched the surface. Armstrong, Gus Grissom, and Gene Cernan all went to Purdue. Plus, all those intrepid twoofers know that the Civil Engineering and Computer Science departments are complicit in hiding the truth about the September 11 attacks. And Purdue financed Amelia Earhart's final flight.

I slept with Amelia.

Well, I slept IN Amelia.

This is getting worse.

I slept in Earhart Hall the first summer I was at Purdue. They had one dorm open with the twin towers segregated. The two top floors were reserved for alums who honored our aviatrix.

 

[SpitfireIX]

Yeah, I lived in Earhart the first summer I was at Purdue. For those unfamiliar, Earhart Hall is normally a women's dormitory, but during the summer, it is coeducational. Fun fact: The Earhart Hall student club is called Itasca, after the Coast Guard cutter that was the last ship to hear from her.

 

[JesseCuster]

Still waiting for Vixen to provide an operational definition of what she means by geopositioned, which will only take a minute or two of her time.

Which she can’t and won’t do. Instead she’s wasting time waffling on about Armstrong and Aldrin’s personalities, despite repeatedly telling us that she doesn’t care about anyone’s personalities. Hypocrite.

 

[Steve]

I don't buy into the idea that anyone is all "buttercups and roses". Truth is, Buzz had a nasty side, too. Running into his bosses' offices berating them about their not selecting him as Commander instead of Armstrong. By all accounts he really kicked up a stink. Only took one lousy pic of Armstrong. Yeah, Hollywood loves him because he's the consummate actor.

Ooh! Argument by personality . Silly poster.

 

[Foster Zygote]

This is exactly the problem. The 'trust me' principle because, 'We're the good guys'. You make the same mistake as someone I know: anyone she's in disagreement with has some kind of personality defect. It's a form of self¨defence, rather than addressing the difference of opinion.

When people point out things that she is undeniably, provably wrong about, does she accuse them of misogyny?

 

[Mojo]

@Vixen, please complete this sentence:

"A non-geopositioned satellite is a satellite that ___________________________________."

"isn't geopositioned."

 

[Foster Zygote]

A sextant and a chronometer could be utilised to calculate longitudinal positioning. I wanted JesseCuster to do some thinking as to how to calculate stuff logically, in this case, from the process of natural planetary movement. So I tried to get him to 'do the math', as they say in his part of the world, via an ordinary pocket watch.

Yet you couldn't even do the math to determine if it was possible to take all the photos from the Apollo 11 EVA in the time they were on the surface.

You talked about calculating GMT from a pocket watch, but that's not how longitudinal fixes are made. You need a marine chronometer set to the exact time of a reference longitude. Then you can use the sextant to measure your latitude, then one of a number of reference stars (including the sun). This, cross referenced to a calendrical chart, tells you your local time, which can be compared to the reference time of the chronometer to determine your longitude.

The idea that someone lost at sea with no idea what their longitude is in the first place could use a pocket watch, set to who knows what local time, to determine their longitude is as hilariously ignorant as any of your other theatrics in which you arrogantly pretend to be teaching people something.

 

[W.D.Clinger]

The idea that someone lost at sea with no idea what their longitude is in the first place could use a pocket watch, set to who knows what local time, to determine their longitude is as hilariously ignorant as any of your other theatrics in which you arrogantly pretend to be teaching people something.

To be fair, even I (or an equally dunder-headed navigator) could determine our longitude to within a thousand miles, using only a Waltham Model 57 pocket watch that was set to GMT or some other known time zone only a week ago, together with clear skies and a stick long enough to determine local noon to within half an hour or so.

But @Vixen's faithful companion Kimo Säpi is probably the only person on earth who knows how to use such instruments to calculate the correct longitude to within a few dozen feet.

 

[JesseCuster]

It relayed images of 10 frames per second, which were picked up - it is claimed - by two receivers in Australia and one in California, due to Canberra being most accessible to where Apollo11 was situated on the Moon,

The reason for any particular radio dish being used to receive the signals from the moon wasn’t because of “where Apollo 11 was situated on the moon.” It’s due to that principle of spinning you thought you were educating us about, i.e. the earth rotates, so a radio dish on whatever side of earth is suitably facing the moon is used.

What difference would it make where on the moon they were located as to which radar dish was used to receive the signal?

 

[JesseCuster]

To be fair, even I (or an equally dunder-headed navigator) could determine our longitude to within a thousand miles, using only a Waltham Model 57 pocket watch that was set to GMT or some other known time zone only a week ago, together with clear skies and a stick long enough to determine local noon to within half an hour or so.

I couldn’t. If I was stranded at sea in a liferaft (without an able navigator like Kimo Sapi), I’d probably be dead within a week. But that doesn’t get me any closer to understanding what Vixen means by a “geopositioned satellite”.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Some folks are sterling examples of "lunatic".

 

[Foster Zygote]

You did get one answer wrong. For a geostationary position with Earth you need an orbit of apx 36K km out, not 'any one of those' distances as indicated.

You don't need to be in geostationary orbit to photograph the earth's surface. The vast majority of satellites that photograph the earth's surface are in LEO. Look at Google Earth.

Why do you still insist on pretending you know anything about this subject, let alone that you're an expert, when you keep making the most embarrassing errors? Do you really think you're fooling anyone? Are you just trying to delude yourself? Is there some masochistic thing going on where you like being shown how ignorant you are?

 

[Foster Zygote]

Unfortunately, JesseCuster is still asking about that captain in Tallinn and the freaking Atlantic Lock, despite trillions of pages of explanations.

It's just so rude of him not to play along with you and pretend you aren't wrong.

 

[junkshop]

No, it wasn't Cattell Culture Fair. As I said the docs refer to two different tests all together and different social clubs.

You wouldn't know them, they went to a different club.

 

[Foster Zygote]

No, I was not a juvenile ATT. As I said, the second one was not a British Mensa test score but for a triple nine club. So whatever your beliefs as to its merits, it is true I am a triple niner. This was a rebuttal to Foster Zygote's persistent claim I made it up.

Foster Zygote still doesn't believe you.

And even if you did take a test to join a "social club" and get a cute little ego-stroking certificate, the fact that someone so appallingly ignorant of even basic logic and science could earn such a certification strongly suggests that you got scammed. Does this "social club" charge a fee to take this test, or are there membership dues or fees?