Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

[Vixen]

Wherever it's from, it's wrong. Materially wrong in this case, since transmitting signals from the lunar surface to the Earth doesn't need constant adjustment of the antenna since the Earth doesn't move. It just sits there and spins.

If you happen to be in orbit around the Moon then, sure, you need a method to keep your directional antenna pointing at the Earth. But you would need to do that to keep it pointing at some satellite too, so that's no advantage.

Anyway, what's the next baby step after discovering the Earth rotates and the moon keeps it's same side pointing at Earth all the time?

I need to see whether Jesse understands the principle of spinning, first.

As you know, he asks the same question over and over for years so let's take it easy for him.

 

[Foster Zygote]

It's from 'Physics & Astronomy' zone.

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Of course, the Earth spins on its axis far faster than the moon does. But the salient point for Jesse Custer is that both are constantly spinning.

And you think that makes it impossible to track an object in the sky with a radio telescope? Yes or no.

 

[Mojo]

I need to see whether Jesse understands the principle of spinning, first.

I'd be interested in finding out whether you understand it. Or anything else.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I need to see whether Jesse understands the principle of spinning, first.

As you know, he asks the same question over and over for years so let's take it easy for him.

You're bluffing and stalling because you don't have any explanation to give.

Everyone understands the Earth spins. Time for you to amaze us with something a 5 year old might not get.

 

[Foster Zygote]

I'd be interested in finding out whether you understand it.

I think it's yet another instance of Vixen not knowing how something was done, and therefore concluding that it can't be done.

 

[Steve]

I need to see whether Jesse understands the principle of spinning, first.

As you know, he asks the same question over and over for years so let's take it easy for him.

Jesse Custer understands each and every science principle far better than you do. Your "need" is quite pathetic.

He is patiently asking the same question over an over in the futile expectation that you might actually answer it with a modicum of your own understanding instead of providing links you don't understand.

 

[Foster Zygote]

You're bluffing and stalling because you don't have any explanation to give.

Everyone understands the Earth spins. Time for you to amaze us with something a 5 year old might not get.

She's bluffing because the simple answer has already been presented to her, but she can't ever, ever, admit she was wrong.

 

[JayUtah]

I need to see whether Jesse understands the principle of spinning, first.

No, you're not the teacher here.

We're trying to see whether you know anything about how to communicate between planetary bodies. So far, no, you don't. The "spinning" is irrelevant. It has been described several times to you how neither the Earth's rotational motion nor the Moon's rotational motion poses any problem for communication between the Moon and Earth. Apparently the Triple-Niner is stumped.

As you know, he asks the same question over and over for years so let's take it easy for him.

Because you refuse to answer. Because you don't know the answer and are too childish to be taught.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Pretending that Australia and Spain are hoaxes.

I always suspected Australia was.

 

[Vixen]

It's still AI slop that doesn't answer any of the questions you've been asked.


But no so fast that it affects telecommunications much.

As I said, go out when the Moon comes up and look at it. Your eyeballs are sensors receiving electromagnetic radiation directly from the Moon. A radio telescope is also a sensor that receives electromagnetic radiation, just in much longer wavelengths for telecommunication purposes. You can stand out there for hours at a time with your eyeballs receiving electromagnetic radiation from the Moon while the Moon slowly makes its way across the sky.

When you there in Finland are done doing that, it's my turn in the United States to do it because Earth has slowly rotated so that my part of the planet can now exchange electromagnetic radiation with the Moon.

The only reason you think it has to be any more complicated is because you don't have the brains to figure out what Allen and Weaver are trying to say. Therefore you're flooding the zone with nonsense and made-up words hoping that you won't have to admit you were wrong.


Nobody disputes that. What they dispute is your claim that this creates an insurmountable logistics problem.

I didn't say it was 'insurmountable', I said it was 'additional' to all the other stuff on the crib sheet.

The sun that bids us rest is waking
Our brethren 'neath the western sky

So, just as bedtime calls here, you all are just waking. Nice catch.

 

[JayUtah]

I didn't say it was 'insurmountable', I said it was 'additional' to all the other stuff on the crib sheet.

Tell me what else you think they needed to do besides point the antenna at Earth. Tell me why the signals won't just arrive at Earth.

The sun that bids us rest is waking
Our brethren 'neath the western sky

So, just as bedtime calls here, you all are just waking. Nice catch.

Quit stalling and answer the questions.

 

[Foster Zygote]

No, you're not the teacher here.

We're trying to see whether you know anything about how to communicate between planetary bodies. So far, no, you don't. The "spinning" is irrelevant. It has been described several times to you how neither the Earth's rotational motion nor the Moon's rotational motion poses any problem for communication between the Moon and Earth. Apparently the Triple-Niner is stumped.

Again I'm reminded of flat earthers and their inability to comprehend scale for both time and space. It's like when they make incredulous statements about how the planets and stars a "whizzing around", or the earth is "spinning at 1,000 mph!"

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Do you suppose, Vixen, that when they set off for the Moon, it took them by surprise to discover that the Earth spins once per day? Or do you think that might have been a consideration they already knew about and factored in to their plans and designs?

 

[JesseCuster]

I understand that both the earth and the moon rotate.

Please continue.

 

[Foster Zygote]

I didn't say it was 'insurmountable', I said it was 'additional' to all the other stuff on the crib sheet.

The sun that bids us rest is waking
Our brethren 'neath the western sky

So, just as bedtime calls here, you all are just waking. Nice catch.

Telescopes have had mechanisms to track astronomical objects for two hundred years. It isn't a problem at all. It's no more an 'additional logistical challenge' than putting fuel in an aircraft, or connecting a television to a power outlet.

 

[Mojo]

I understand that both the earth and the moon rotate.

Please continue.

She won't be able to until she understands it.

 

[JesseCuster]

I still don’t know what Vixen means by “geopositioned”. Vixen, does it mean geostationary/selenostationary? Or does it mean something else?

 

[JayUtah]

Again I'm reminded of flat earthers and their inability to comprehend scale for both time and space. It's like when they make incredulous statements about how the planets and stars a "whizzing around", or the earth is "spinning at 1,000 mph!"

Well, she does appear to be getting at least some of her physics from flat-Earthers. We still don't know what she means by "atmospheric buoyancy."

I still don’t know what Vixen means by “geopositioned”. Vixen, does it mean geostationary/selenostationary? Or does it mean something else?

At this point we're unlikely to find out because @Vixen is in full face-saving mode, perhaps rotating slowly so that each part of the face gets equally saved.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

I need to see whether Jesse understands the principle of spinning, first.

I'm sure that he does, and I doubt that you have any such need.

As you know, he asks the same question over and over for years so let's take it easy for him.

...by finally answering it?

 

[Foster Zygote]

I still don’t know what Vixen means by “geopositioned”. Vixen, does it mean geostationary/selenostationary? Or does it mean something else?

Most people, if they were grasping for a term and got it wrong, like "geopositioned", upon being asked "did you mean 'geostationary'?", would say, "yeah, that's it". But Vixen has to pretend to be an expert in all fields, so we get a few hundred pages of pretending that she knew precisely what she was saying, and everyone else is too far beneath her intellectually to comprehend what she meant.