SpuriusMaximus
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I would also add before someone else misrepresents it that Étienne Klein did get criticised for plagiarism since 2016, but it was for his pop-sci books for kids, not his PhD or any papers (which AFAIK he had none after his PhD.) It's basically the equivalent of someone saying that, dunno, Bill Nye the science guy copied a part of his script. It maybe cause for a copyright lawsuit, but it's no reason for the university to look into that, and nobody asked or expected them to.
And he lost his job at the Institute for Advanced Studies for Science and Technology in 2017 (very next year) over it anyway. It wasn't in any papers published for them, but they weren't gonna take flak for him anyway.
When the allegations of plagiarism in his actual PhD thesis were made in 2024, the university ON ITS OWN immediately launched an investigation that pored over it and other sources line by line, and actually discovered MORE plagiarism than Arrêt Sur Images had discovered instead of defending him. Arrêt Sur Images found plagiarism on 20% of the pages of his thesis, the university found it on two thirds of pages. (Note that that doesn't mean the percentage of the text, just on how many pages it occurred.) And they promptly annulled his PhD at the end of that investigation.
And almost immediately after that, he lost his job at the CEA too over it.
THAT is how the system works as designed.
And he lost his job at the Institute for Advanced Studies for Science and Technology in 2017 (very next year) over it anyway. It wasn't in any papers published for them, but they weren't gonna take flak for him anyway.
When the allegations of plagiarism in his actual PhD thesis were made in 2024, the university ON ITS OWN immediately launched an investigation that pored over it and other sources line by line, and actually discovered MORE plagiarism than Arrêt Sur Images had discovered instead of defending him. Arrêt Sur Images found plagiarism on 20% of the pages of his thesis, the university found it on two thirds of pages. (Note that that doesn't mean the percentage of the text, just on how many pages it occurred.) And they promptly annulled his PhD at the end of that investigation.
And almost immediately after that, he lost his job at the CEA too over it.
THAT is how the system works as designed.