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Psychics and Missing People

Kelly,
I e-mailed the organizer of a blog carnival called The Skeptics' Circle, and I believe your series will get a mention (and a link) in the next edition, which will be published March 16th at Paige's Page.

Two things:

1) Yes this is somewhat preaching to the choir, in that most of the readers will already be skeptics, but a wider audience in general can only be good for Project Jason (IMHO).

2) As most of the readers will already be skeptics, it may subject your religious beliefs to some comment. I hope that is kept to a minimum, and that the skeptical community at large can live up to the level of respect you have received here.
 
Check out this new blog comment:

"What about the series on court tv called "Psychic Detectives"? Is that all a farce? Some of cases show how the psychics led the detectives to solve the crime. Just a thought after reading your post. I too am a new reader and don't know what NCMEC stands for. I saw your post at the court tv message board. I will follow the blog with interest and hope others will too. I hope it can save someone else some of the heartache you have endured."

Hey, if it's on TV, it's real, right?

Is there an article specifically about that show? (debunking)

I did, BTW, edit NCMEC and wrote it out.
 
Gr8wight said:
Kelly,
I e-mailed the organizer of a blog carnival called The Skeptics' Circle, and I believe your series will get a mention (and a link) in the next edition, which will be published March 16th at Paige's Page.

Two things:

1) Yes this is somewhat preaching to the choir, in that most of the readers will already be skeptics, but a wider audience in general can only be good for Project Jason (IMHO).

2) As most of the readers will already be skeptics, it may subject your religious beliefs to some comment. I hope that is kept to a minimum, and that the skeptical community at large can live up to the level of respect you have received here.
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On 1) Yes, I agree. People need to be educated on these issues. They need to know what to do and where to go. We service all walks of life, all faiths and beliefs. (I don't mention religion to our families unless they bring it up first.) I'll bet most of you had no idea about the plight of the missing before I came. Truly, time is such and enemy when you have a missing person, and if you know who to call, it can make a difference.

2) If they should give me grief, I will read with one eye closed! What's important is to get the info out there.

These are excellent, excellent ideas. Thank you for the action.
 
KellyJ said:
Check out this new blog comment:

"What about the series on court tv called "Psychic Detectives"? Is that all a farce? Some of cases show how the psychics led the detectives to solve the crime. Just a thought after reading your post. I too am a new reader and don't know what NCMEC stands for. I saw your post at the court tv message board. I will follow the blog with interest and hope others will too. I hope it can save someone else some of the heartache you have endured."

Hey, if it's on TV, it's real, right?

Is there an article specifically about that show? (debunking)

I did, BTW, edit NCMEC and wrote it out.
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The frustrating thing about TV Shows like "Psychic Detectives" is that the presenter is so obviously biased toward believing in psychic phenomena. And there is no way to know what information they have deliberately withheld, or chosen not to pursue, that might cast doubt on the psychics.

Usually.

Fortunately, some members of this forum were able to find a deliberate case of biased reporting and withholding of vital information in one psychic detective showcase.

Read this topic to learn about it.
 
Good morning.

I actually like to watch the show Psychic Detectives. It is a shame that it is on Court TV since it totally mocks the hard work and real investigative skills that law enforcement do use. Sci Fi or Comedy Channel might be a better choice. If you watch the shows carefully and don't get sidetracked by the trippy sound effects and dizzing camera effects, like when they go spinning around the alleged psychic, you will notice that inspite of the biased and unfair editing, the psychic doesn't actually solve the case. Lot's of after the fact declarations though.
JPK
 
KellyJ said:
Interesting about the reactions to cancer as well.

I figured I would at least get a bunch of "so sorry's" on the forum.
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It doesn't say anything good or bad about the Catholic forum that they were unable to help. They just don't have the skill set that is needed.

And as RSLancaster has shown with his efforts to stop Kaz, even people of faith appreciate efforts to expose frauds.

"Progress, not perfection".
 
Luke T. said:
Fortunately, some members of this forum were able to find a deliberate case of biased reporting and withholding of vital information in one psychic detective showcase.

Read this topic to learn about it.
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I posted that link on the comments section for that person. I see our thaiboxerken has been there as well.
 
KellyJ said:
I posted that link on the comments section for that person. I see our thaiboxerken has been there as well.
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Thaiboxerken is our man on the scene at Court TV. :D

Nobody has a better handle on that situation than he does.
 
Good morning to you JPK.

I posted on that specific Catholic forum because it is fairly good size and because in my keyword search for "psychic", I found there were a few psychics posting there who had come clean. I thought some "conversion" stories would be a good thing to add in. I was still also hoping to find the psychologist person to shed light on the guilt angle.

I knew this was the best place for the debunking apsect of things. :)
 
Luke T. said:
Thaiboxerken is our man on the scene at Court TV. :D

Nobody has a better handle on that situation than he does.
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I believe he said they banned him. I posted my link on the thread he frequented and they just dismissed me without a second thought and continued on with their chit-chat. :(
 
Someone posted on one of my outside threads about a psychic named Nancy Myer. I thought someone had posted about her on this subforum, but a search proved fruitless. Does anyone have a quick link to her shenanigans?

Thanks,
Kelly
 
KellyJ said:
Both good links.

I really liked the second one as it is LE (Law Enforcement) related. This is the first I have seen of this type of article. I think it also plays a part in adding credibilty to the voices of reason. The last line of the article said it all.

Thanks, Dr. A.
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Well, thank you. If it wasn't for people such as yourself, with first hand experience, telling people the score, then there'd be no data except a lot of silly news stories and skeptics would have nothing to answer them with.

Also, it's nice to feel useful ... it's not often that people think "What I need is a bunch of skeptics". Which is a shame considering how often that's exactly what they need.

As far as your Catholic forum goes, as Luke says, they don't have the skill set ... or the experience. To put together the SkepticWiki article, all I had to do was look in the threads where we'd already given psychic detectives a good drubbing, and follow the links.

For some excellent Catholic skepticism, try the Father Brown stories by G K Chesterton.
 
KellyJ said:
Someone posted on one of my outside threads about a psychic named Nancy Myer. I thought someone had posted about her on this subforum, but a search proved fruitless. Does anyone have a quick link to her shenanigans?

Thanks,
Kelly
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The article I emailed you is about Nancy Myer.
 
That's lucky ...

That reminds me. Let me know whre the article appears so that SW can link to it.

I do give one example of a psychic manipulating the media ... that quote from KlaasKids.

Unbelievable. Apparently you can just walk into a TV station and say "Hello, I have magical crime-fighting abilities", and instead of the journalists checking your story, which is their job, they reply: "Please let us give you five minutes of free advertising disguised as news".

If they need to pad their program out with novelty acts, they should get a juggler.
 
Luke T. said:
The article I emailed you is about Nancy Myer.
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Oh my! I have to laugh at myself. I was thinking that I knew I just read something about her, but thought it was on the forum or in a link someone provided. You must think me a ditz!

The truth be known....I need a bit more sleep tonight.

Data Overload! :D
 
Dr Adequate said:
That's lucky ...

That reminds me. Let me know whre the article appears so that SW can link to it.

I do give one example of a psychic manipulating the media ... that quote from KlaasKids.

Unbelievable. Apparently you can just walk into a TV station and say "Hello, I have magical crime-fighting abilities", and instead of the journalists checking your story, which is their job, they reply: "Please let us give you five minutes of free advertising disguised as news".

If they need to pad their program out with novelty acts, they should get a juggler.
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We'll let you know the link, you bet.

Little by little, we're building a good base of information about our topic.

I'm good buds with Marc Klaas' right hand man. He is going to get me something from Marc...not sure how much as he is so busy.

You hit the nail on the head. (bolded info)

We have some excellent teamwork going here, Dr. A. I also like the way the new discussions on this subforum are going: heavy hitting, but fair debating.

Other than Marc Klaas firm stand, and NCMEC's statement, I do not know of any missing person org who has tackled this issue in such an upfront way. I definetely don't know of any who are presenting real stories.

This is groundbreaking, don't you think? (Or am I just a dreamer?)
 
KellyJ said:
Oh my! I have to laugh at myself. I was thinking that I knew I just read something about her, but thought it was on the forum or in a link someone provided. You must think me a ditz!

The truth be known....I need a bit more sleep tonight.

Data Overload! :D
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I don't think you a ditz at all. In fact, between all the links here that people have been posting, and the links and information and article I have sent you by email, all of which you have read, I have been astonished at your level of absorption.

Data overload, for sure. And entirely understandable.
 
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