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loch ness monster....here's proof

Ed said:
I love the concept of big hidden things in the deep.
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The Loch Ness monster and Champy are phoney-baloney, but my erstwhile roommate is not.

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Currently devouring the souls of soccer moms in the outer Boroughs of New York City.
 
SteveGrenard said:
One can't defend the claims of any large, unknown aquatic reptile such as a pleiosaur surviving in Loch Ness, Lake Champlain or anywhere else unless or until we have the specimen in captivity. Photos and sightings to date can be explained away by natural means or fakery such as this taxidermied crocodile curio.

When I see it, all of it, captured dead or alive, then I'll believe it. This was the case with the giant/colossal squid, with the coelacanth and other animals previously reported but unverified by science.
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Very well you leave me no choice:a2:

\exiting skeptic mode\

How can you disregard all the evidence for the existence of the Loch Ness Monster?!?!?:eek: So many reliable people have seen it for so many years, do you really think they're ALL lying???? :eek: :rolleyes: You''ve yourself quoted an expert for saying that the foot has "overgrown, abnormal scales" so it's clearly NOT a normal crocodille. Nessi is probably a crocodille that has grown to abnormal size and achieved immortality, due to the UFO radiation that hits the lake!!!!

http://www.lochness.co.uk/livecam/

Take that your close minded pseudo-skeptic:D :hit:
 
Abdul Alhazred said:
I don't know how the Loch Ness thing got started, and I'd be surprised if many living there "buy it", except for the tourist industry.
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By pure coincidence I was half-listening to the radio last night and heard the statement that the Nessie idea is thought to have been begun by a circus owner (someone wellknown, he was named) who was performing in the area, and watched one of his elephants having a swim/wallow in the loch.

Rolfe.

Oops, sorry, I should read to the end of a thread before replying, I guess....
 
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This story's also covered in today's Daily Mail (page 15) and The Sun (pages 32 & 33).
 
Sounds highly plausible.The Sun's graphic is quite convincing.Thoughts?
 
Azrael 5 said:
Sounds highly plausible.The Sun's graphic is quite convincing.Thoughts?
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Well... there has been supposedly a monster in Loch Ness for many hundreds of years so a 1930s elephant wouldn't cut it.

For me the most significant nail in Jumbo's coffin is the "Surgeon's Photo" - one of the most famous and the one which started off the modern hoo-ha. It was (as far as I'm aware) the first to depict the long neck that's now being portrayed as a trunk. Prior to that the monster was described as a huge lumbering thing, often on the land, not infrequently described as being like a horse (a reference to an each uisge, perhaps?). But that photo was - according to the deathbed confession of the photographer - a hoax of clay and a toy submarine. So where does that leave Nellie now?
 
There's no reason why a bit of invention inspired by a bathing elephant couldn't have built on the earlier each uisge stories.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
There's no reason why a bit of invention inspired by a bathing elephant couldn't have built on the earlier each uisge stories.
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That's true, but the claimed aim of the hoax was to produce something resembling a sea serpent, which one might expect to look rather like the picture. I don't think elephants need to be invoked but, well, who knows?
 
Dr Adequate said:
Well ... supposedly.

Are you thinking of St Columba?

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So 1933 then! It's an elephant,case closed!
There was a riudiculous comment on the radio today,I think Talksport,that you could fit the world's population into Loch Ness! :jaw-dropp
Sport fans,not renowed for impartial thought!! :p
 
Rolfe said:
There's no reason why a bit of invention inspired by a bathing elephant couldn't have built on the earlier each uisge stories.

Rolfe.
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Problem is that if you missjudge the distance a Roe Deer would look even more monster like.
 
I know what you mean about distance. I was cycling on a canal towpath one afternoon when I looked across the canal and saw what I first thought was an enormous black cat, almost puma-sized, in the field on the other side. However, when I looked for a few moments longer I could see that it was actually a very ordinary black cat, probably about 5kg. The point was that it was walking across a featureless grass field, with no immediate scaling references, and my brain had at first interpreted it as much bigger than it was. Only on longer observation, taking note of such scaling references as there were, was the true size apparent. If all I'd ever got was the initial glimpse, I'd have been declaring there was a puma loose in Hebden Bridge!

Rolfe.
 
Dr Adequate said:
Well ... supposedly.

Are you thinking of St Columba?

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Good article, but ironically a more thorough sceptical account of Columba's alleged sighting is given at gospelcom.net (confusingly).

Just have a quick read of Adomnán's Vita Columbae, wherein the tale was originally recounted (see Book II, Chapter XXVIII), to get a feel for the trustworthiness of these tales of Columba's life. Can you find any that might just be partly true?

Clue: the work is divided into three books: Of his Prophetic Revelations; On his Miraculous Powers; and Of the Visions of Angels.
 
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