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Psychics and Missing People

Kelly, I told you in a PM that every time I hear of a psychic on the news being given any credibility, I write to the reporter or editor of the story to give them hell.

Oh yes, yes. Would that we would ALL do that. Oh, let's. LET'S!!!!
 
Here's the really sick part, Kelly, which I am sure you know: Psychics count on the missing person and person who took them never being found. The odds are in their favor. They can make all kinds of wild claims about activities that occurred surrounding the disappearance with the knowledge that the odds are in their favor. And even if the missing person is found, or the kidnapper caught, no one will remember how far off the psychic was except the immediate family and they aren't going to have the resources to make that knowledge public.

That's what makes the Elizabeth Smart Psi-Tch case so great. She was found alive and none of the events Psi-Tech remotely viewed were remotely correct. It was a spectacular and public failure. And boy did they scurry to cover it up! To no avail.

So use it. Like a hammer.
 
Okay, Kelly. I have just written a two page article on the Kimberly Forbes missing person case and the psychic hired by the TV station.

I titled it "But The News Said Psychics Are Real!"

Just tell me where to email it if you want it.

You can do whatever you want with it. All rights, etc., etc., are yours.

All I ask is that if you credit it to me, that the byline say "Luke T." I don't use my whole name in public venues for personal security reasons.
 
Wow!
I leave for the evening and come back to find all of this wonderful help! I just came back from the wrap-up meeting from the search I was assisting with this past 3 days. Let me unwind and catch up with urgent emails, and I will be back to reply.

(Maybe I should leave again??) ;)

Thank you all!
 
Oh for pete's sake.

Mckenzie's own website includes:

(1) One of the three different pictures he made of BTK:

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(2) A photograph of BTK:

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(3) A claim that he was "incredibly accurate and correct".

So it turns out he's insane ... but it's a profitable sort of insanity. Meanwhile here am I stuck with this crazy urge to howl and bang my head against a wall, and can I make a thin dime out of that?
 
Mariah said:
Hurry up, Kell!

You're getting Left Behind!
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I'm sorry, I didn't see the post where Kelly said she believed in the rapture. Perhaps you could point that one out? Or how that joke is relevant to this thread's purpose and discussion?
 
I'm sorry, I didn't see the post where Kelly said she believed in the rapture. Perhaps you could point that one out? Or how that joke is relevant to this thread's purpose and discussion?

Kelly enjoys a little humor every once in a while. She told me so in a PM. I've helped her plenty, myself.
 
Mariah said:
I'm sorry, I didn't see the post where Kelly said she believed in the rapture. Perhaps you could point that one out? Or how that joke is relevant to this thread's purpose and discussion?

Kelly enjoys a little humor every once in a while. She told me so in a PM. I've helped her plenty, myself.
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While I am not opposed to a little humor, I am a bit sensitive about the appearance of attacking's someone's beliefs off topic from their purpose in posting here. Kelly was rather nervous posting on a board with so many athiests that she would be under attack for her religion. I just wanted to be sure it was clear to her that no one's intent is attacking beliefs off topic or without the invitation of debate.

I apologize for the rash response, and I hope you understand my concern. Kelly's contributions here are important and welcome, and I want to be sure she knows that her religion is not under attack.
 
From the article I just wrote, an excerpt:

There are a lot of ways a news outlet can redraw attention to a missing persons case. Publish the missing person’s photos. Give all the details of the disappearance that are known. Interview the police to see what progress has been made. Be factual. A responsible news organization does not aid and abet the criminal by tripping the light fantastic through the Twilight Zone, casting suspicion on innocent people and relating events which in all likelihood contradict what was seen by potential witnesses in the viewing audience, thereby discouraging them from coming forward. Not when a life is at stake. Such gross irresponsibility is beyond the pale.
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I believe Kelly knows I'm THE LAST person who would ridicule her beliefs, and here, of all places.
 
Mariah said:
Seriously... there's nothing worse than a "butthead for Jesus".

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I'm missing the point there. Perhaps we can avoid derailing the thread further and you could PM your question about things in my sig line.
 
Ok, I'm back and will work to catch up with everyone here.

Just to set the record straight, I have conversed with several of you about my beliefs, and yes, that nervousness about being in the "lion's den". Those fears were unfounded, and no one has fired a volley my way. The lions ended up being pussycats. :)

You guys will really get a kick out of this, but I had posted the same post#1 on a major Catholic forum, and only had a few responses! Sometimes people just don't know what to say, I guess. I make them nervous in a different way. No one wants to be me, and sometimes it seems like having a missing child might be contagious.

I do indeed have a sense of humor. Check out the humor thread if you don't believe it.

Oh, and Left Behind is a silly, overwrought brand of Christian literature which has no basis in truth. Catholics do not believe in the "Rapture" in that way.

I did find humor in Mariah's post. I was also very touched by FowlSound's care of my feelings.

Everyone here has just been really wonderful to me. Thank you.

Back to work for me now........
 
KellyJ said:
Ok, I'm back and will work to catch up with everyone here.

Just to set the record straight, I have conversed with several of you about my beliefs, and yes, that nervousness about being in the "lion's den". Those fears were unfounded, and no one has fired a volley my way. The lions ended up being pussycats. :)

You guys will really get a kick out of this, but I had posted the same post#1 on a major Catholic forum, and only had a few responses! Sometimes people just don't know what to say, I guess. I make them nervous in a different way. No one wants to be me, and sometimes it seems like having a missing child might be contagious.

I do indeed have a sense of humor. Check out the humor thread if you don't believe it.

Oh, and Left Behind is a silly, overwrought brand of Christian literature which has no basis in truth. Catholics do not believe in the "Rapture" in that way.

I did find humor in Mariah's post. I was also very touched by FowlSound's care of my feelings.

Everyone here has just been really wonderful to me. Thank you.

Back to work for me now........
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We're nowhere near as cute as pussycats. I do, however, enjoy a ball of yarn occasionally...

I can empathise with the feeling that it may be contagious. I have a post in my blog about ridiculous reactions to cancer that is similar.

I am surprised though, that the Catholic forum did not offer a big response. I can't imagine that they wouldn't see this as the opportunity this forum has to do something to make a difference for the better.

Oh well.

Where's my yarn?
 
Dr Adequate said:
SkepticWiki now has an article.

[swiki]Psychic Detectives[/swiki]

I found the links by searching this forum for threads with the word "detective" in them.

Ah, yes, I remember Lucianarchy ... oh the fun we had ...

Here's a good bit from one of the links:


* sniggers *

Professionals Against Confidence Crime is a nice authoritative source.

Please let me know when the projected website is up and running, and about the Tony Youens article when it materializes, and I can add links.

Is there anything else I should add?
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Both good links.

I really liked the second one as it is LE (Law Enforcement) related. This is the first I have seen of this type of article. I think it also plays a part in adding credibilty to the voices of reason. The last line of the article said it all.

Thanks, Dr. A.
 
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