Roger Waters promotes 9/11 conspiracy theories...

[Allen773]

...on--where else--Tucker Carlson's podcast.

There is no way the North and South towers and Building Seven came down because of airplanes hitting. Just not possible,” Waters vehemently stated.

Some in the comments (though certainly not all) pushed back:

Fans were shocked by the statements, taking to the comments to share their offense and anger at the claims made in the video.

“It’s unbelievable how many stupid people there are. And they think they know everything.”

“Well, I was there, and let me tell you, it was the planes. Roger Waters, Tucker Carlson, and Donald Trump weren’t there that day and, they’re not structural engineers. So they can tell me aliens did it for all I care because none of them knows wtf they’re talking about.”

“Don’t listen to expertise from this guy on anything other than maybe music. Luckily there are ACTUAL EXPERTS IN STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING that study and analyze these things.”

https://parade.com/news/legendary-70s-rock-star-pushes-9-11-conspiracy-theory-in-new-interview-not-possible

 

[Thermal]

My gramma started spouting crazy ◊◊◊◊ when she got up there in years, too. It's kinda sad.

 

[Steve]

My gramma started spouting crazy ◊◊◊◊ when she got up there in years, too. It's kinda sad.

Waters has been spouting crazy ◊◊◊◊ for a fair chunk of his life.

 

[Thermal]

Waters has been spouting crazy ◊◊◊◊ for a fair chunk of his life.

That may well be so, I don't usually listen to what artists think about stuff beyond their art. And for whatever crazy ◊◊◊◊ might be included even in his professional work, I respect the man's artistry. I mean maybe you have to be a little nuts/disconnected from reality to take music that far?

 

[Smock]

I too try to separate the artist from the the art, and I truly admire Waters' art. But most of his views are not only ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ crazy, he's also vehemently anti-semitic. Which is even crazier when you think the one theme which defines his life (and art) the most was losing his father in the war to fight the Nazis. To adopt the views of the enemy which took your father from you; that's some twisted logic, right there.

 

[Steve]

That may well be so, I don't usually listen to what artists think about stuff beyond their art. And for whatever crazy ◊◊◊◊ might be included even in his professional work, I respect the man's artistry. I mean maybe you have to be a little nuts/disconnected from reality to take music that far?

Agree on all points. Waters has written, and orchestrated in live shows, some great music. That is his particular talent because, in my view, he is a rather mediocre musician. The crazy ◊◊◊◊ goes back to leaving Floyd then claiming he was Floyd and the band was nothing without him.

 

[Thermal]

The lyrics to Another Brick in the Wall Part 1 were a strong tip about losing his father in WW2. Still think of that as a profoundly haunting song.

Eta: I can kinda sorta see him blaming his own country for being responsible for his father's death, though, and in a screwball way, blaming the Jews. It ain't right, but I can see how the headspace of a little boy whose father was taken away might go there.

 

[Smock]

The lyrics to Another Brick in the Wall Part 1 were a strong tip about losing his father in WW2. Still think of that as a profoundly haunting song.

Eta: I can kinda sorta see him blaming his own country for being responsible for his father's death, though, and in a screwball way, blaming the Jews. It ain't right, but I can see how the heads pace of a little boy whose father was taken away might go there.

He goes deeper in The Final Cut (dedicated to his father). It's all a mishmash of him blaming Britain, especially Thatcher, for all the troubles in the world, but underneath it all is his father's death. It's the one theme he can't seem to shake. It's also no secret that Roger's maniacal control problems when making The Final Cut led to the breakup of the band.

 

[Resume]

He's a genius! Just ask him.

 

[The Atheist]

Surprise ratio zero. Waters is the perfect example of a flawed genius.

It's all his mum's fault.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

The lyrics to Another Brick in the Wall Part 1 were a strong tip about losing his father in WW2. Still think of that as a profoundly haunting song.

I know nothing about that, only that the lyrics promoted a 'thought control' conspiracy and suggested children don't need an education, reinforced by having actual children in the choir (which I thought was borderline exploitive). IOW, Roger Waters was always anti-establishment and conspiracy minded. At the time I excused it on the basis that the UK under Thatcher probably deserved the criticism, but as is so often the case it only masked the crazy.

Eta: I can kinda sorta see him blaming his own country for being responsible for his father's death, though, and in a screwball way, blaming the Jews. It ain't right, but I can see how the headspace of a little boy whose father was taken away might go there.

It makes perfect sense. If it wasn't for the Jews (so the theory goes) Germany wouldn't have been stabbed in the back in WWI, and Hitler wouldn't have started WWII. Ironically Hitler actually helped Jews emigrate to Palestine (his first 'solution', before realizing there were too many of them and something more radical was needed). This led to Zionists forcing Britain to create Israel, allowing them to carry out their plan of genociding the local population - while playing the antisemitism card against anyone who criticized them.

It's hard not to be an 'anti-semite' these days - even Jews are being accused of it. Unfortuantely this emboldens actual anti-semites, who think any criticism validates their bigotry. A bad situation all round.

Roger Waters is just another idol who turned out to have feet of clay. It's sad to see people close their minds as they get older. I hope that never happens to me.

 

[Thermal]

I know nothing about that, only that the lyrics promoted a 'thought control' conspiracy and suggested children don't need an education, reinforced by having actual children in the choir (which I thought was borderline exploitive). I

You're thinking of Part 2 (the popular 'We don't need no education' one). I said part 1 (different song). There's three total.

OW, Roger Waters was always anti-establishment and conspiracy minded. At the time I excused it on the basis that the UK under Thatcher probably deserved the criticism, but as is so often the case it only masked the crazy.

So I'm belatedly gathering. I knew he was anti-establishment, and I guess those are close neighbors to CTs. They both distrust The Man.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

All I know is that you can't have your pudding if you haven't eaten your meat.

 

[Steve]

All I know is that you can't have your pudding if you haven't eaten your meat.

An adage to live by, from Roger the philosopher.

If that line has any connection to what his home was like growing up it goes a long way to explaining his views as an adult.

 

[Mojo]

Roger Waters talks bollocks, Pope suspected of Catholicism.

 

[Thermal]

Surprise ratio zero. Waters is the perfect example of a flawed genius.

It's all his mum's fault.

He shouldn't have asked her about building that Wall.

 

[Smock]

He shouldn't have asked her about building that Wall.

For some reason I always thought Mother better suited a female vocal. Both Sinead O'Connor and Natalie Maines killed their cover. Much better than the original.

 

[Thermal]

For some reason I always thought Mother better suited a female vocal. Both Sinead O'Connor and Natalie Maines killed their cover. Much better than the original.

I heard O'Connor and agree, but haven't heard Maines. A-googling I will go.

In other gender bender cover thoughts, I thought Baba O'Reilly covered by Blue Man Group did a stunning job with Tracy Bonham singing.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I heard O'Connor and agree, but haven't heard Maines. A-googling I will go.

In other gender bender cover thoughts, I thought Baba O'Reilly covered by Blue Man Group did a stunning job with Tracy Bonham singing.

Possibly the most commonly misnamed song... [CLARKSON] In The World [/CLARKSON]

 

[Thermal]

Possibly the most commonly misnamed song... [CLARKSON] In The World [/CLARKSON]

Lol, I fought with the fam recently during a roundtable game about favorite songs/artists (with no real-time fact checking allowed). Baba O'Reilly, the Stone's Gimme Shelter, and Traffic's Low Spark (of HHBs) I was roundly assured did not actually exist. I felt so alone.