Steve
Penultimate Amazing
Stop judging others by your own standards.
It is your plethora of uninformed and frankly stupid statements that are being judged. Judged against proven and well known scientific standards.
Stop judging others by your own standards.
It would depend (a) where on the Moon, (b) time of day and (c) level of glare, together with the overall background brightness of the ground (or albedo).
Well?Let's start by assuming it is night, that the Sun is on the opposite side of the Moon and Earth, so Insolation and glare are not an issue.
Let's also assume that the sky on Earth is clear and free from clouds, and that the air is still.
I wrote 'electrolysis or combustion' and ppl misread it (or claimed to) that these are the same thing (as if). How do you know I have a lack of knowledge? Some hecklers told you so?
You also wrote electrolysis and combustion, then described them as two different methods of producing water.Sorry, there should have been a comma there indicating or, as in a different method, by combustion. Although it should have been obvious electrolysis and combustion are two different methods of producing water.
No. During a full moon on earth, someone on the lunar near side would see the night side of the earth, with a thin little circle of light where the sunlight passes through the atmosphere.AIUI the Earth is always gibbous![]()
to the Moon, so not difficult to add.
For ◊◊◊◊'s sake, we were talking about water ice already on the moon. Combining hydrogen and oxygen is what (certain types of) rockets do. Why would you first get a bunch of hydrogen and oxygen, then combust it into water, then use electrolysis to separate out the hydrogen and oxygen again, so you could combust it again in a rocket engine???Not so. First the two elements need to be combined to make water. As an engine propellent, separating the two, is another process altogether quite separate from mining.
No. Pointing out that you don't know what you're talking about, and hence that you use the wrong words to describe it, is valid.Thus, your complaint of wrong word is just a distraction from the point being made...
That's not what you wrote.You know perfectly well the sense was electrolysis OR combustion.
Yes, and it will keep coming up as long as you dodge the fact that Marcus Allen lied.This has been answered numerous times.
No. Marcus Allen claims the stars should have been incidentally visible in Apollo photos. He claims this on the basis of his purported expertise. He's flatly wrong. He lied. You found out the lie, but you won't admit it. You're committed to the lie.The debunkers claim, it is not possible to photograph the stars, is based on how the camera was actually set by NASA/Ektachrome.
You have no idea what "Ektachome" means, do you?Wrong again! Ektachrome bods designing the specs were central to the Apollo photography programme.
No. Kodak is a company. Ektachrome is one of their products.Ektachrome is a brand name but then, so is Kodak.
Neither Kodak or Hasselblad supplied the film magazines.Ektachrome supplied the bespoke film magazines....
The Ektachrome E-3 process film was the most popular reversal film in the 1960s. The processes E-3 through E-6 all used the polyester base, as does all film now. I've shot hundreds of rolls of it. Ektachrome film was chosen because it was so well understood.This film has never been made for the public or mass-produced.
It still takes tens of seconds to photograph them on ISO 160 film.No, stars are extremely bright in outer space.
Unfortunately getting things right matters. Nobody gets things as wrong as you do unless they are ineducable or trolling.I am not going to argue as to whether it was Eastman Kodak or Kodak Ektachrome or just Ektachrome for short.
Yes, but I wanted Vixen to tell me.We already know; not in any way that affects the exposure values required. The film was thinner to allow more exposures for the same volume of film.
I am not sure why there is the need for crude language. I am citing HJP "Douglas" Arnold, who worked with Kodak in the UK 1966 - 74 during Apollo.Bollocks it was.
As already mentioned, Ektachrome was 160 ASA on Earth, and on the Moon.
I am not sure why there is the need for crude language. I am citing HJP "Douglas" Arnold, who worked with Kodak in the UK 1966 - 74 during Apollo.
Yes, if you wanted to convey the right concept, you should have written something different.Sorry, there should have been a comma there indicating or, as in a different method, by combustion.
It's obvious to us that electrolysis and combustion are different. It's equally obvious to us that you didn't know that.Although it should have been obvious electrolysis and combustion are two different methods of producing water.
Rubbish. There are two processes: extracting the 'water' from the crater, which may require a choice of more than one process depending on its structure. Being embedded in Moon soil points to this. The usage as a propellent in flight is quite another.Yes, if you wanted to convey the right concept, you should have written something different.
It's obvious to us that electrolysis and combustion are different. It's equally obvious to us that you didn't know that.
You're more likely citing him as quoted by David Percy. You should be aware that Arnold was interviewed under false pretenses and that he later repudiated Percy and Percy's use of his expertise to support hoax claims.I am citing HJP "Douglas" Arnold, who worked with Kodak in the UK 1966 - 74 during Apollo.
Some of us still read books, newspapers and magazines.And where might that "cite" be? I see no links or attributions in your posts regarding Ektachrome film.
Uh huh? And are you in indeed referencing Arnold as quoted by Percy?Some of us still read books, newspapers and magazines.
You can say that now because we told you. Before we told you, you thought electrolysis was a kind of combustion. That's why you're frantically trying to patch it up with, "What I really meant to say was..."Rubbish. There are two processes...
If you post it to support a claim you should show us where you got it.Some of us still read books, newspapers and magazines.
I know your sources far better than you do. I recognize the information being quoted.Some of us still read books, newspapers and magazines.
Please give an actual citation. Link, please.I am not sure why there is the need for crude language. I am citing HJP "Douglas" Arnold, who worked with Kodak in the UK 1966 - 74 during Apollo.
Lunar eclipses must really confuse you, then.AIUI the Earth is always gibbous![]()
to the Moon, so not difficult to add.