Dave Rogers
Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through
Please highlight the part of my post where I said any such thing.You seriously think both things can't be going on at the same time?
Dave
Please highlight the part of my post where I said any such thing.You seriously think both things can't be going on at the same time?
What, that the police are systemically biased in favour of and against members of ethnic minorities?
You weren't quoting anybody, and your post followed mine directly, so it was a reasonable assumption. Perhaps you need to be clearer whom you're replying to rather than pretending someone else is at fault.I wasn't replying to you. If I had been, I'd have quoted you.
I made a mistake and corrected my post almost immediately.
You may or may not be replying to me or to someone else with one or both of these posts. Perhaps you could indicate that somehow?Maybe read your own post again.
OK, then. How do you infer, from a post that has the form:My posts followed yours. I was replying to you. However in one post I briefly misread the name of the poster. That's all. I corrected the mistake.
That's why it's a good idea to look at the stats.The police isn't just one person you know.
OK, then. How do you infer, from a post that has the form:
When A happens, population P say X
When B happens, population P say Y
that the poster is denying that both A and B happen? I'm pretty much stating outright that sometimes police officers mistreat black and Asian people and sometimes mistreat white people. How do you get from there to "You seriously think both things can't be going on at the same time" when I've explicitly stated that they are?
Dave
Perhaps for you but for those pushing the story it was the whole point of pushing the story.OK, from what you say now, we would appear to be in agreement. More, I think Darat is absolutely right about the longstanding and widespread racism (the traditional sort) in the police, and that this has not been stamped out despite some quite vigorous efforts. But at the same time, these very efforts, well documented to be designed not to produce colour-blind policing but to skew the bias in the opposite direction, are leading to some situations where police (and the criminal justice system in general) are treating ethnic minority offenders with kid gloves, and sometimes coming down hard on white people in the process.
The first problem is undoubtedly still the more prevalent one, which is why looking at statistics isn't going to show up the second.
In the Birmingham case I have literally no idea whether race was a factor in the appalling law enforcement choices. It was simply dreadful
policing regardless of what colour anyone was.
Laurence Fox
@LozzaFox
There is a reckoning coming for these pig scum and no number of hi viz jackets, batons and pepper spray are going to save you.
You deserve everything that’s coming.
◊◊◊◊ the police.
It used to be (well, still is) the Left wing activists who had problems with the police, and the right wing was fully in support of the Thin Blue Line, and Laura Norder. What happened?Lozza - straight outta Harrow! Public School Boys With Attitude! Gangsta! Gangsta!
It used to be (well, still is) the Left wing activists who had problems with the police, and the right wing was fully in support of the Thin Blue Line, and Laura Norder. What happened?
Laura pissed in their pint?
Dunno, it's baffling.
Mebbe something to do with Yaxley Lennon being repeatedly arrested and prosecuted on account of being too stupid to not crim? Many other right wing rioters being done for not being able to stop themselves rioting? I mean every time I went on some sort of demo or march in the late '70s and early '80s we burned London to the ground several times - I personally destroyed Nelson's Column twice - so I get that it is impossible to stop yourself rioting....