Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

[Vixen]

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Despicably trying to play the sexist card, I see. Shame on you.

And you still don't get it: the whole point is that while the surface (and objects on the surface) is very bright during the Moon day, the sky remains pitch black.

Oh dear. Again, I was first to mention this. Good grief O'Reilly. Your presumption that because you didn't know, I can't have done either, highlights your incorrect assumptions about others. May I suggest you don't rely on preconceived ideas?

 

[LondonJohn]

As the topic title suggests, it is a weighing up of the claims of the deniers versus the debunkers. It is possible to take a neutral stance although the general view here seems to be it is taboo to look at the claims of the sceptical side. I looked up Kaysing's book on Amazon but unfortunately it's £20 and not available on Kindle. As I already have several books in my 'to read' pile it might not be soon.

When knowledgeable scientists laughingly refute and shut down the claims of morons that homeopathy is effective at a medicinally-therapeutic level, would you likewise categorise that debate as "It is possible to take a neutral stance although the general view here seems to be it is taboo to look at the claims of the sceptical side"?

 

[LondonJohn]

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Oh dear. Again, I was first to mention this. Good grief O'Reilly. Your presumption that because you didn't know, I can't have done either, highlights your incorrect assumptions about others. May I suggest you don't rely on preconceived ideas?

Proof? (Hint: you're lying again)

 

[Vixen]

When photographing objects up-sun of them. Have you figured out yet why facing the other way wouldn't work?

Mojo, I am happy to discuss 'Moon albedos' with you if you would only just drop the condescension.

 

[Mojo]

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Oh dear. Again, I was first to mention this. Good grief O'Reilly. Your presumption that because you didn't know, I can't have done either, highlights your incorrect assumptions about others. May I suggest you don't rely on preconceived ideas?

Do you understand that while the sky is black on the Moon, the stars are not significantly brighter there than they are on Earth?

 

[Vixen]

When knowledgeable scientists laughingly refute and shut down the claims of morons that homeopathy is effective at a medicinally-therapeutic level, would you likewise categorise that debate as "It is possible to take a neutral stance although the general view here seems to be it is taboo to look at the claims of the sceptical side"?

This is why you are not good at debating. You have already decided people who advocate homeopathy are 'morons'.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Mojo, I am happy to discuss 'Moon albedos' with you if you would only just drop the condescension.

A new word you googled?

 

[LondonJohn]

Mojo, I am happy to discuss 'Moon albedos' with you if you would only just drop the condescension.

Google AI is a most useful tool for you, isn't it?

 

[threadworm]

As the topic title suggests, it is a weighing up of the claims of the deniers versus the debunkers. It is possible to take a neutral stance although the general view here seems to be it is taboo to look at the claims of the sceptical side. I looked up Kaysing's book on Amazon but unfortunately it's £20 and not available on Kindle. As I already have several books in my 'to read' pile it might not be soon.

That's not what you're doing. Your 'weighing up' is pretty much 'Trevor says...' or 'Marcus says..' with no attempt to expand on their pronouncements, or explain why their arguements hold more merit than the long and detailed counters made to them here.

Kaysing's "book" is pretty easy to find, you're either bothered about an informed debate or you aren't.

 

[Andy_Ross]

This is why you are not good at debating. You have already decided people who advocate homeopathy are 'morons'.

They are
They are right there alongside flat earthers and Tartarians

 

[LondonJohn]

This is why you are not good at debating. You have already decided people who advocate homeopathy are 'morons'.

I stand admonished (and rightly so) by a master debater. Maybe you are much more intelligent than everyone else in this thread, Vixen.

 

[Mojo]

When photographing objects up-sun of them. Have you figured out yet why facing the other way wouldn't work?

Mojo, I am happy to discuss 'Moon albedos' with you if you would only just drop the condescension.

The post you are replying to here is nothing to do with the Moon's albedo.

 

[Vixen]

Do you understand that while the sky is black on the Moon, the stars are not significantly brighter there than they are on Earth?

AI overview suggests stars look 'crisper and brighter' from the Moon albeit marginally.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Why rely on AI?

Why not go to an astronomy source?

 

[Vixen]

A new word you googled?

Er, a new word Mojo googled.

I like how you've demonstrated your...biases.

 

[Mojo]

AI overview suggests stars look 'crisper and brighter' from the Moon albeit marginally.

I'll take that as a "no", but I'll assume you understand and accept what the AI told you.

Do you understand that the sun is not any dimmer on the Moon than it is on Earth?

Try to answer it yourself rather than asking an AI.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

... if you would only just drop the condescension.

Said the poster who likes to start replies with "Oh dear..."

 

[Mojo]

A new word you googled?

No, it's a term that I introduced (ETA, but which had already been used elsewhere in the thread), and which Vixen didn't read well enough to get right.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

AI overview suggests stars look 'crisper and brighter' from the Moon albeit marginally.

They don't twinkle, due to the lack of atmosphere. Reminding us of another of your slips.

 

[Vixen]

I'll take that as a "no", but I'll assume you understand and accept what the AI told you.

Do you understand that the sun is not any dimmer on the Moon than it is on Earth?

Try to answer it yourself rather than asking an AI.

The Earth is protected to a large degree from the sun because of its atmosphere. The full sun on the Moon reaches 120°C, iirc. In addition, its shadows are pitch black.

But we have been through all this already.