Merged (edited) General thoughts about Christianity and the bible

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yep, exactly as I was saying. He was proposing that adaptation is possible without genetic change. Just like the position you at least seem to propose. Yours is not full-tilt Lysenkoism, but only a very partial version. But still...

FFS, I posted a link to Lysenkoism so people could see how rediculous it was.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

The life from non-life is one of the standard apologetics that has me puzzling since we all experience it every day.

Chemicals combine to form more complex chemicals, which combine to form...

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Well, OK, I mean, I can't argue with that. Lysenkoism is one of the dumbest ideas that came out of the 20th century out of people who should have known better. And the allfather knows it has some serious competition for that title.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

By Odin's iPatch, dude, you've been answering to the SAME message at least three times by now, STILL not offering any evidence or even a valid argument against it, and obviously just trying to bait me. I mean, I'm not even asking for a SOUND argument, just VALID. Or hell, even ONE counter-example would do to invalidate my point. Just ONE case where adaptation changed the appearance of members of some species, without changing the genetic distribution. That's literally what it takes for me to bow down. But you just abandoned all else in favour of trying to bait me into playing your silly game. Even Rusty didn't stoop THAT low so far, and the old gods know I contradicted him more than I ever did your misunderstandings of how Darwinism works. Even he seems to have more dignity. So right back at you: are YOU really that desperate?`

Try reading what I post.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Is humankind lost without God?

What is grace and are we in need of it?

It is by grace you are saved and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, so that no one can boast.

Should we extend grace to others even if we don't believe in God?

 

[catsmate]

Oh good grief more idiotic god bothering nonsense.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

any instances in the past when humankind was given grace by God ?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yes, we needed Grace. Otherwise Jefferson Airplane would have been a lesser god.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

BTW, being dead often enough will cause a bit of absentmindedness. If you're lucky you'll get to live to find that out for yourself.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Oh good grief more idiotic god bothering nonsense.

I'm pretty sure this doesn't bother God.

But sure bothers you. How come?

Did I hit a nerve?

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Is humankind lost without God?

What is grace and are we in need of it?

It is by grace you are saved and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, so that no one can boast.

Should we extend grace to others even if we don't believe in God?

A fool sayeth in his heart gold is the bluest smell in the universe.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

any instances in the past when humankind was given grace by God ?

Of course.

1 Timothy 2:5-6 NIV
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

 

[Olmstead]

Is that why you believe unconditionally? Because you are in need of it? Are you afraid of a life without this vague concept?

 

[Rusty Tyler]

A fool sayeth in his heart gold is the bluest smell in the universe.

Sounds like a misquote.

Psalm 14:1 NIV
The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.” ...

April 1st.
International atheists' day.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Of course.

1 Timothy 2:5-6 NIV
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

So what did humankind do to deserve grace then?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Without Grace Project Hail Mary wouldn't have been as much fun.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Is that why you believe unconditionally? Because you are in need of it? Are you afraid of a life without this vague concept?

No, not afraid.
We all need it. IMHO
Not vague to me.
We can't save ourselves. We need help.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

So what did humankind do to deserve grace then?

We messed up.
Grace is unmerited favor.
It can't be earned.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Without Grace Project Hail Mary wouldn't have been as much fun.

Tell me more. (I'm Protestant)

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Grace is unmerited favor.
It can't be earned.

So why worry about something that you have zero control over?