Merged (edited) General thoughts about Christianity and the bible

[P.J. Denyer]

Nobody's thinking "light bulb" right now, right?

Nah, probably off complaining to the camp councillors that the atheists won't follow the script right.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

♫They're creepy and they're kooky,
Mysterious and spooky.
They're all together kooky,
The Adams family♫

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Rusty? Are you going to check this out?

Philipse concludes (1) that theism cannot be stated meaningfully; (2) that if theism were meaningful, it would have no predictive power concerning existing evidence, so that Bayesian arguments cannot get started; and (3) that if the Bayesian cumulative case strategy did work, one should conclude that atheism is more probable than theism.

1) For me, Theism is a belief in God. Is that meaningful enough?
2) Theism is meaningful to those who believe in God.
3) Atheism is a cop-out. Only probable because of rampant unbelief. (skepticism)
Questions about God are met with a noncommittal shrug. (dunno)

 

[Pixel42]

Believing in God is a cop out, it saves you from having to do any more thinking about the hard questions - the most immediate of which, of course, is: if God created the universe, who created God?

 

[Foster Zygote]

Nobody's thinking "light bulb" right now, right?

[Raises hand]

 

[Mojo]

Believing in God is a cop out, it saves you from having to do any more thinking about the hard questions -

...and enables you to outsource your ethics.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Believing in God is a cop out, it saves you from having to do any more thinking about the hard questions - the most immediate of which, of course, is: if God created the universe, who created God?

You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Believing in God is a cop out, it saves you from having to do any more thinking about the hard questions - the most immediate of which, of course, is: if God created the universe, who created God?

Good question, but...
That assumes that God is part of a created universe.
God is a creator. He didn't need one.

I'm looking forward to finding out what was there before God created the universe.
No way to know at this point, unless your understanding of the BIG Bang reaches back before that time.

Who pulled the trigger on the BIG Bang?

 

[SteveAitch]

Believing in God is a cop out, it saves you from having to do any more thinking about the hard questions - the most immediate of which, of course, is: if God created the universe, who created God?

And why did they call him Nigel?

(C) Andy Hamilton - Old Harry's Game.

 

[JayUtah]

Who pulled the trigger on the BIG Bang?

What was the answer the last time you asked this stupid question?

 

[Helen]

Good question, but...
That assumes that God is part of a created universe.
God is a creator. He didn't need one.

I'm looking forward to finding out what was there before God created the universe.
No way to know at this point, unless your understanding of the BIG Bang reaches back before that time.

Who pulled the trigger on the BIG Bang?

If gods do not need creators, why would the universe?

 

[Carrot Flower King]

1) For me, Theism is a belief in God. Is that meaningful enough?
2) Theism is meaningful to those who believe in God.
3) Atheism is a cop-out. Only probable because of rampant unbelief. (skepticism)
Questions about God are met with a noncommittal shrug. (dunno)

What a load of old bollocks, even by the standards of these threads.

Please explain why not believing in which ever particular set of myths and fairy tales are under discussion is a cop out?

A more accurate stance is that religions are a cop out as they save the hard of thinking from having to do hard thinking about pretty much anything, 'cos goddidit...

 

[JayUtah]

1) For me, Theism is a belief in God. Is that meaningful enough?

Nope. You've had a pretty rough time trying to define that god.

2) Theism is meaningful to those who believe in God.

Tautologies are tautological.

3) Atheism is a cop-out. Only probable because of rampant unbelief. (skepticism)

You make it sound like unbelief in something that could be proven but isn't is a bad thing. As I'm fond of pointing out, your made-up version of Christianity looks, walks, and quacks like Mormonism. Among other things you believe that a prophetic gift is necessary to interpret scripture. You believe in a corporeal god. But you have no problem disbelieving Mormonism, as do many others. So your unbelief is okay while skeptics' unbelief is "rampant." Sounds like special pleading.

As is quite obvious, theism is the cop-out for the reasons given. Worse, cafeteria theism is even more of a cop-out. You declare that you have adhered to some noble, higher path handed down to you by a supreme being, but then you reserve the right to say, "Nah, bruh," when it becomes inconvenient to your personal liberty. You've got one foot on the dock and one foot in the boat.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

What was the answer the last time you asked this stupid question?

The question was only triggering to evolutionist atheists?

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Please explain why not believing in which ever particular set of myths and fairy tales are under discussion is a cop out?

The choice is always "Anything but God". Seems like an escapism cop-out.

A more accurate stance is that religions are a cop out as they save the hard of thinking from having to do hard thinking about pretty much anything, 'cos goddidit...

Where does that leave you?
Those with a God have hope in something beyond themselves.

 

[Olmstead]

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Where does that leave you?
Those with a God have hope in something beyond themselves.

In other words, you admit that you believe in God because you can't handle the alternative. You need that hope and will defend it against everything, even hard facts.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

As is quite obvious, theism is the cop-out for the reasons given. Worse, cafeteria theism is even more of a cop-out. You declare that you have adhered to some noble, higher path handed down to you by a supreme being, but then you reserve the right to say, "Nah, bruh," when it becomes inconvenient to your personal liberty. You've got one foot on the dock and one foot in the boat.

The alternative is cookie cutter Christianity. I'm not concerned with conformity.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

In other words, you admit that you believe in God because you can't handle the alternative. You need that hope and will defend it against everything, even hard facts.

No, I could handle the alternative just fine. But it's just a BAD decision for me. (given my background and experiences)

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Those with a God have hope in something beyond themselves.

LOL You should take she Abnormal Psych classes at Purdue. Open some eyes.

 

[Helen]

No, I could handle the alternative just fine. But it's just a BAD decision for me. (given my background and experiences)

A very strange basis for a worldview. And even stranger, since it seems to imply thst you could choose not to believe.