Rusty Tyler
Graduate Poster
Better luck next time. - LOL
Philippians 1:6 NIV
... he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
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Why Are the Majority of Those in Hell the Poor and Oppressed Masses?
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Philippians 1:6 NIV
... he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
What's the difference between a prayer to which the answer is not "yes" and a prayer to which there is no answer at all?
Experience is a poor guide to truth. We experience weird ◊◊◊◊ all the time and we don't always have a scientific explanation for it. That doesn't mean that you can shoehorn your personal belief into the gap.
Rusty Tyler
Graduate Poster
If not "Yes.", it is "No.", or "Wait."
But "No." is different than no answer at all.
Truth is weirder than fiction.
You can't make this stuff up.
Sound familiar?
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
Is it? If the answer is not "yes", how can you tell the difference between "no", "wait", and no answer at all?
Very. Truth is weirder than fiction. Just look at Donald Trump. But that doesn't mean that your fiction, or anybody else's fiction, has priority over truth.
Rusty Tyler
Graduate Poster
Good question.
Typically the person that gets a "No." is conscious of it.
They know that God has a different idea about how to solve the person's issue.
Sometimes God has mercy on us by NOT answering that kind of prayer.
"Wait." is basically a "Yes." with an extended fulfillment.
A no answer, is a tough one.
Ultimately, it's best to turn over a situation over to God completely.
When Moses had his back to the Red Sea, he didn't pray for God to open the waters.
That was God's idea. --- Best to leave the solutions to Him.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
Conscious of it in what way?
Trebuchet
Penultimate Amazing
Have not read the thread. But I have an answer to the title.
Allah is an ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ who prefers rich sinners to the devout poor.
Allah is an ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ who prefers rich sinners to the devout poor.
Rusty Tyler
Graduate Poster
Rusty Tyler said:
Typically the person that gets a "No." is conscious of it.
If it's not a "Yes.", and it's not a no-answer, then it is a "No."
A peace comes over them. They feel reassured, even though it's not a "Yes."
Usually accompanied by a sign of some sort.
Typically the person that gets a "No." is conscious of it.
Simple logic, I suppose.
If it's not a "Yes.", and it's not a no-answer, then it is a "No."
A peace comes over them. They feel reassured, even though it's not a "Yes."
Usually accompanied by a sign of some sort.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
You suppose? Supposition is not truth.
But how can you tell?
Peace came over me this morning, and I felt reassured, while I was sitting on the toilet.
A sign of some sort? You mean, something happens? You do realise the vast number of possible events that can be interpreted as a "sign", right? Back in the day, they interpreted the flight of birds as a "sign". They interpreted "signs" in the stars. Simply saying "a sign of some sort" defines nothing concrete or significant.
I saw a spider coming down the wall while I was sitting on the toilet. Was that a "sign"?
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
It sounds like you believe the Mormons are obviously right, then.
Rusty Tyler
Graduate Poster
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Lots of experience. You just know.
The BIG event. I had one too.
Again, you just know.
Yes it was.
Did you understand it?
(time to squash a bug)
Rusty Tyler
Graduate Poster
They didn't get everything wrong.
I used to have a Mormon for a neighbor. (downstairs in our duplex)
Heck of a nice guy. We got along fine.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
I'm not talking about Mormon cordiality. What you're telling us is the criterion for knowing that God is talking to you is the criterion Mormons say should convince you that only Mormonism is right, even if you already belong to a Christian religion. Are the Mormons right on that point?
It usually is. Let's say you are arrested on a criminal charge and arraigned before a judge who says, "I suppose you're guilty. I'm sentencing you to jail." Is that right?
But you can't articulate anything that doesn't sound like auto-suggestion. Sounds like you don't know.
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Joe Random
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Not trying to simply snipe from the sidelines or the like, but it seems to me that one of two scenarios is in play with our newly registered evangelist.
1- he registered here and didn't do any/much lurking or 'reading the room'. That's mildly rude, but whatever. I'm sure he'd not be alone in that category if that's his thing.
2- he knew what this place was, and still thought "Despite these people having heard and debated these same arguments countless times over many, many years (decades), I'll be the one who changes their minds!
To Rusty - like I said above, 1 is impolite, but not exceptional. But if it's 2 - wouldn't you think that'd be a bit on the prideful side? Meaning, you bring nothing new to the argument, but you think that you yourself making it would be the difference? Isn't pride considered a sin in your ideology?
Why do you think that you, personally, will succeed when so many others before you failed?
1- he registered here and didn't do any/much lurking or 'reading the room'. That's mildly rude, but whatever. I'm sure he'd not be alone in that category if that's his thing.
2- he knew what this place was, and still thought "Despite these people having heard and debated these same arguments countless times over many, many years (decades), I'll be the one who changes their minds!
To Rusty - like I said above, 1 is impolite, but not exceptional. But if it's 2 - wouldn't you think that'd be a bit on the prideful side? Meaning, you bring nothing new to the argument, but you think that you yourself making it would be the difference? Isn't pride considered a sin in your ideology?
Why do you think that you, personally, will succeed when so many others before you failed?
winter salt
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Can someone tell me what qualifications you need to be a hated turk?
Is it the genes or a cultural thing ?
If cultural aspect is the determiner since it makes no sense to hate genes, is it the pre-Islamic turk or Islamic turk to be hated? Or if we go by the present time and individual, is it the muslim turk or non muslim turk to be hated?
Is it the genes or a cultural thing ?
If cultural aspect is the determiner since it makes no sense to hate genes, is it the pre-Islamic turk or Islamic turk to be hated? Or if we go by the present time and individual, is it the muslim turk or non muslim turk to be hated?
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Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
Like suicide bombers just know that God wants them to blow themselves up in a crowded restaurant.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
Or as Randolph Churchill is supposed to have said, "God, isn't God a ◊◊◊◊!"
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist Pronouns: He/Him
You just know. How do you know? Please go into detail.
Yet Matthew....
P.J. Denyer
Penultimate Amazing
I find myself strongly reminded of the days when evangelical schools and colleges used to have their students sign up to social media sites to proselytise to the ungodly. I think this site was blacklisted because we enjoyed the supply of chew toys too much. Maybe someone didn't get the memo?