Why Are the Majority of Those in Hell the Poor and Oppressed Masses?

[ahhell]

Since Hell does not exist, this topic is quite moot.

Moderately amusing, moot originally meant "debatable".

It has come to mean insignificant almost entirely due to an SNL sketch in which The Rev. Jesse Jackson hosts a game show called, "The Point is Moot!" The sketch includes a young Julie Louis-Dreyfuss when she was a cast member.

 

[JayUtah]

Moderately amusing, moot originally meant "debatable".

And now, in law, it means exactly the opposite. A matter is "unripe" for litigation (i.e., debate) when actions to be adjudicated have not yet occurred, or some other necessary provision is not yet in force. Conversely a matter becomes "moot" when the asked-for relief no longer has any useful effect and therefore the debate has no distinctive outcome. You can only debate matters after they become ripe and before they are moot.

 

[Darat]

Difference in USA legalise and English as wot is speaked in't motherland. A moot point in English is a debatable or uncertain point.

 

[Thermal]

Since Hell does not exist, this topic is quite moot.

Disagreed. I live in New Jersey US of A, and can assure you Hell is alive and well as our tourist season kicks off this weekend. The tourists are indeed oppressed, but seem to have a lot of cash?

 

[Rusty Tyler]

If I may - lack of evidence is sufficient to draw such a conclusion. Occam's razor applies.

Doesn't that require making assumptions about the afterlife?
If there is an afterlife, there could be a hell.
Certainly plenty of candidates to inhabit it. - lol

That being said, I still don't believe in hell.
I think there will be a total reset. Back to Eden.

Various NDEs give eyewitness accounts of the afterlife.

 

[JayUtah]

If there is an afterlife, there could be a hell.

Or not.

Various NDEs give eyewitness accounts of the afterlife.

Various NDEs give accounts of what you experience when you're near death. Assuming that this experience is evidence of an afterlife is a stretch.

 

[Joe Random]

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I think there will be a total reset. Back to Eden.
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Best thing about Eden? No Herberts allowed.

 

[Steve]

Doesn't that require making assumptions about the afterlife?
If there is an afterlife, there could be a hell.
Certainly plenty of candidates to inhabit it. - lol

That being said, I still don't believe in hell.
I think there will be a total reset. Back to Eden.

Various NDEs give eyewitness accounts of the afterlife.

It requires making no assumptions. What requires assumptions is that NDE's provide evidence of an afterlife, which then assumes that hell is a part of that afterlife. It also requires an assumption that the Eden in the fantasy book is a real place.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Various NDEs give accounts of what you experience when you're near death. Assuming that this experience is evidence of an afterlife is a stretch.

Why would it be a stretch? They are eyewitness accounts.
That would be primary evidence in a court of law.

 

[Helen]

Unconscious, but eyewitnesses? Now there's a novel concept!

 

[Rusty Tyler]

It requires making no assumptions. What requires assumptions is that NDE's provide evidence of an afterlife, which then assumes that hell is a part of that afterlife. It also requires an assumption that the Eden in the fantasy book is a real place.

I meant Eden metaphorically. As a state of being, not a geographic location.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Unconscious, but eyewitnesses? Now there's a novel concept!

Not conscious physically, but VERY conscious.
Recalling doctors working on them and saying things they actually said.

 

[Helen]

Not conscious physically seems to adequately describe their condition, the rest? Not so much.

 

[Darat]

Doesn't that require making assumptions about the afterlife?
If there is an afterlife, there could be a hell.
Certainly plenty of candidates to inhabit it. - lol

That being said, I still don't believe in hell.
I think there will be a total reset. Back to Eden.

Various NDEs give eyewitness accounts of the afterlife.

But if Jesus's words are correct in the bible people wouldn't experience NDEs or anything at the point of death, it's a sleep until he wakes us.

 

[Darat]

It requires making no assumptions. What requires assumptions is that NDE's provide evidence of an afterlife, which then assumes that hell is a part of that afterlife. It also requires an assumption that the Eden in the fantasy book is a real place.

If NDEs are evidence of an afterlife then it is not evidence of the afterlife of the Christians - whether up or down.

 

[Darat]

Not conscious physically, but VERY conscious.

Recalling doctors working on them and saying things they actually said.

Then they were conscious, albeit probably still paralysed.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

But if Jesus's words are correct in the bible people wouldn't experience NDEs or anything at the point of death, it's a sleep until he wakes us.

Jesus' words? Like what?

Luke 20:37-39 NIV
But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise,
for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’
He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”
39 Some of the teachers of the law responded, “Well said, teacher!”

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Then they were conscious, albeit probably still paralysed.

Their view was from above. Looking down at their body being worked on.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

If NDEs are evidence of an afterlife then it is not evidence of the afterlife of the Christians - whether up or down.

Why not?
Not all sects of Christianity believe in soul sleep. (unconscious nonexistence)
Even the proof-text used is contradictory.

Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10 NIV
5 For the living know that they will die,
but the dead know nothing;
they have no further reward,
and even their name is forgotten.
...
10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might,
for in the realm of the dead, where you are going,
there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

 

[Steve]

Their view was from above. Looking down at their body being worked on.

Of course it was.