Merged why the release of names associated with Epstein mean little to absolutely nothing.

Trausti said:
You're aware these are phoned-in accusations. The next column over is the response to the accusation - there was no confirmation.
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Of course I'm aware. I was not offering this as evidence of guilt, just a sample of what was released. Anything overtly incriminating has not been released (or is heavily redacted) lol. But I think the shear amount of documents released that include allegations against trump taken as a whole are rather suggestive as to why Trump did/does not want the files released. He is all over them.
 
stanfr said:
Of course I'm aware. I was not offering this as evidence of guilt, just a sample of what was released. Anything overtly incriminating has not been released (or is heavily redacted) lol. But I think the shear amount of documents released that include allegations against trump taken as a whole are rather suggestive as to why Trump did/does not want the files released. He is all over them.
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I think (though don't know for sure) that the NTOC calls in 2020, summarized in that email string, is it. It is just not believable that the Biden DOJ would have had incriminating info on Trump and not used it while it was going after Trump for everything else.
 
I don't see dates. When does Trump's name start to appear? If the accusations are mostly from the time he was president they would not be as believable as if they have been made through the years, before he was in politics... If accusers have been mentioning his name for a long time it would definitely look like a pattern...
 
Abooga said:
I don't see dates. When does Trump's name start to appear? If the accusations are mostly from the time he was president they would not be as believable
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Correct. These were all made in 2020 by phone. Not at all shocking that none were deemed credible.
 
stanfr said:
Of course I'm aware. I was not offering this as evidence of guilt, just a sample of what was released. Anything overtly incriminating has not been released (or is heavily redacted) lol. But I think the shear amount of documents released that include allegations against trump taken as a whole are rather suggestive as to why Trump did/does not want the files released. He is all over them.
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The fact that the cult is in full damage-control mode speaks novels, too. They know.
 
Abooga said:
I don't see dates. When does Trump's name start to appear? If the accusations are mostly from the time he was president they would not be as believable as if they have been made through the years, before he was in politics... If accusers have been mentioning his name for a long time it would definitely look like a pattern...
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some of the documents, evidence, and accusations predate the announcement of his candidacy, some are after. the entirety of the epstein sex trafficking story covers several decades
 
dirtywick said:
some of the documents, evidence, and accusations predate the announcement of his candidacy, some are after. the entirety of the epstein sex trafficking story covers several decades
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['Centrist'] that just proves theyve been after poor little twumpypoo for years and years and years! Everyone are all just yuge meanies to him because theyre jealous!! :sniffles, cries single tear:[/'Centrist']
 
Abooga said:
If accusers have been mentioning his name for a long time it would definitely look like a pattern...
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Accusers have been mentioning his name for decades. He was bragging about sexual impropriety on Howard Stern long before he ran for office. Just because someone makes an allegation long after the fact does not make it patently suspect. Many woman only come forward when something triggers them to, for the obvious reason that they don't want to be ignored, accused, dismissed, and have to relive past trauma. For example the women who accused Brett Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas of sexual misconduct did so expressly because they felt it was important to shine a light on the character of potential Supreme Court Justices. And of course, not surprisingly, their allegations were largely dismissed.
 
www.nbcnews.com

Federal sex trafficking trial begins for luxury real estate brokers and their brother

At least eight accusers are expected to testify against the three Alexander brothers, including a woman who was 16 at the time of her alleged assault.
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so this trial started recently involving some luxury real estate broker brothers, oren, tal, an alon and a series of sexual crimes and trafficking.

well, guess who’s appears in the epstein tip line linked above? and who else appears in that same accusation? check the one that begins with a 16 year old attending 8 parties and so on.

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it's on the 4th page of that email chain
 
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At age 16, while modeling, caller attended 8 parties at Epstein's New Yorkresidence. On one occasion, caller reported she was sexually assaulted byEpstein. On another occasion, two twin brothers. Allen and Oren. lured callerand her friend upstairs but they escaped back downstairs. Caller stated Orenra her best friend and a third brother, Tal. raped a 14 year old gid namedIle( named other individuals involved in 'big orgy parties" withher, other young girls. and older Victoria's Secret models, including Bill Clintonand Donald Trump
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sorry, i'm making a mess of this thread. but here is the text i was referring to, figured out how to copy and paste
 
dirtywick said:
www.nbcnews.com

Federal sex trafficking trial begins for luxury real estate brokers and their brother

At least eight accusers are expected to testify against the three Alexander brothers, including a woman who was 16 at the time of her alleged assault.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

so this trial started recently involving some luxury real estate broker brothers, oren, tal, an alon and a series of sexual crimes and trafficking.

well, guess who’s appears in the epstein tip line linked above? and who else appears in that same accusation? check the one that begins with a 16 year old attending 8 parties and so on.

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it's on the 4th page of that email chain
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Interesting...and let me guess, Trump has 'never heard of them'
Yet this quick google search pulls up this info, from over a year ago:
Trump and Alexander
ETA: also found an article from a year ago that the Alexander brothers had a Hanukkah party attended by Donald Trump, who complained about his stolen election and shouted 'four more years'. Ah the tangled webs we weave...
 
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dirtywick said:
alright, so there's one credible accusation from the tip line.
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Nah, connecting them to Trump or even Epstein doesn't really work. These guys aren't boomers, they're not even Gen-X. They were 16 or 17 years old when Epstein was first arrested in 2005.
 
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Musk looks up to his neck in the latest Epstein release. I have already seen one email whose authenticity I am doubtful of, but this one looks the real deal: https://www.404media.co/content/images/2026/01/CleanShot-2026-01-30-at-13.25.55@2x.png

Epstein to Musk: November 25, 2012: "how many people will you be for the heli to the island?"
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Musk to Epstein: November 25, 2012: “What day/night will be the wildest party on your island?”
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Musk denied last year a Forbes accusation that he had ever planned a trip to Epstein's island.

Reminder: in 2012, Epstein had four years earlier been convicted of sex offences and was a registered sex offender.
 
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the new revelations of rich and powerful people being blackmailed by, and lying about their involvement with Epstein, I think it becomes even less likely that he committed suicide.
If nothing else, his ability to extort would have given him a very cushy life in prison, and a nice chunk of wealth to get back to once the would get inevitably pardoned in the last 5 minutes of a Presidency.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
the new revelations of rich and powerful people being blackmailed by, and lying about their involvement with Epstein, I think it becomes even less likely that he committed suicide.
If nothing else, his ability to extort would have given him a very cushy life in prison, and a nice chunk of wealth to get back to once the would get inevitably pardoned in the last 5 minutes of a Presidency.
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Has there been direct evidence of blackmail? It wouldn't surprise me, but I haven't heard of it so far.
 
The lastest documents include Epstein writing Bill Gates, reminding him that Gates asked him to provide him with STD drugs to slip to his wife because Gates had caught a bug from a Russian girl at an Epstein party.
 
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