Face Masks

[The Atheist]

Ignorance is not a sin, failing to fact check your claim that what I say as an expert is false is foolish.

Ok, since you're determined to keep making the same error, I'll walk you through it slowly.

You claimed I said something.

That was false.

You then again claimed I was saying something.

That was also false.

You're arguing against something that doesn't exist.

 

[The Atheist]

Something occurred to me earlier.

I can't remember a single dentist or dental nurse not wearing a mask since the 1970s, and with 4 kids and a set of very British teeth, I've seen far too many of them.

 

[novaphile]

And I've been recommended dodgy supplement drinks and acupuncture by other nurses. I wouldn't take medical advice from a nurse on face value.

I had a nurse tell me that I needed to drink orange juice with a tablespoon full of salt to stop leg cramps in my left leg.

I mentioned this to the Doctor that was treating me, for an injury that was rubbing on a tendon and causing the leg cramps, and he explained that she had once worked as a post operation recovery nurse, which caused her to believe that everyone was suffering from a lack of electrolytes.

Such is life I guess.

 

[novaphile]

Something that may be missing from this discussion, is the other precautions that are being taken.

I haven't had a face-to-face appointment with my GP for a long time. Almost all appointments are handled via phone.

At various clinics that I have to attend, they measure my temperature at the door, and if you don't pass, you're sent away.

People that have to sit close, the dentist and the 'mole check' technicians for example, always wear masks and they're wearing them properly, similarly the technician that ran the bone scan for me last week.

In the USA, there is increased risk of morons exploding about freedumbs and deliberately coughing and spitting in peoples' faces, I'd imagine that would make medical staff a little more reticent about masking up.

 

[alfaniner]

Something that may be missing from this discussion, is the other precautions that are being taken.

I haven't had a face-to-face appointment with my GP for a long time. Almost all appointments are handled via phone.

At various clinics that I have to attend, they measure my temperature at the door, and if you don't pass, you're sent away.

People that have to sit close, the dentist and the 'mole check' technicians for example, always wear masks and they're wearing them properly, similarly the technician that ran the bone scan for me last week.

In the USA, there is increased risk of morons exploding about freedumbs and deliberately coughing and spitting in peoples' faces, I'd imagine that would make medical staff a little more
reticent about masking up.

I think you meant something else? "Diligent", perhaps? Maybe I'm not taking the scenario correctly...

 

[Darat]

Something occurred to me earlier.

I can't remember a single dentist or dental nurse not wearing a mask since the 1970s, and with 4 kids and a set of very British teeth, I've seen far too many of them.

That's a "surgical" environment. Not a general consultation environment.

 

[novaphile]

I think you meant something else? "Diligent", perhaps? Maybe I'm not taking the scenario correctly...

No, I meant reticent.

If you have faced multiple physical attacks from the freedumbers, you may be more reticent about masking up all the time.

 

[icerat]

I think the average person is just doing a risk reward calculation. Wear a mask and there is a 100% chance of discomfort and inconvenience. Don't where it and there are a lower chance of mild illness and an even lower chance of severe illness. Now, I'm not saying folks are explicitly doing that calculation but more of a subconscious thing. Also, they look around and nobody else is so they don't. Again, I don't think most of are actually thinking about it that much. I'm also not saying folks are determining risk correctly, we probably aren't.

You're right, but it's not the risk/reward calculus you are thinking about. For the majority of the human race, risk/reward is all about status. Your pecking order in the pack - and we truly remain pack animals, with a handful of outsiders and an even smaller number of "alphas" (though not a good term IMO, but you get the idea)

 

[icerat]

I'm pretty sure medical professionals in general, and medicine as a profession, has a good understanding of how medical personnel would benefit from masking.

 

[The Atheist]

That's a "surgical" environment. Not a general consultation environment.

If a nurse is cleaning my teeth, it's not particularly surgical, and no more so than sticking a tongue-depressor on my tongue.

 

[The Atheist]

No, I meant reticent.

If you have faced multiple physical attacks from the freedumbers, you may be more reticent about masking up all the time.

Sadly. there are people who do actively harass and even assault other people for the sin of wearing a mask.

A couple of blokes here have been jailed for severe assault due to mask attacks.

 

[Ivor the Engineer]

If a nurse is cleaning my teeth, it's not particularly surgical, and no more so than sticking a tongue-depressor on my tongue.

Perhaps you do it differently in NZ, but in the UK having your teeth cleaned at the dentist requires a bib and goggles on the patient because of the spray of toothpaste, plaque and saliva.

 

[The Atheist]

Perhaps you do it differently in NZ, but in the UK having your teeth cleaned at the dentist requires a bib and goggles on the patient because of the spray of toothpaste, plaque and saliva.

Huh, I'll be damned. They use a chewed stick here.